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Posted By: peterjones 32 Warwick Street - 3rd Nov 2014 10:55pm
I believe my Grandparents lived there certainly 1n 1917.I understand the road was demolished around 1971.Grandparents were Edward Jones who married Ellen Roberts in 1917.By 1948 both had passed on .They had at least one Son called William Jones born 32 Warwick St 26th June 1919.He passed on in 1957 living then at 19 Price St Birkenhead.I am his son Peter Jones.
Been to Landican ,The Library at Borough Road,No Cemetery or Burial/Cremation records of them anywhere.Maybe someone out there may remember them.heres hoping .Why was the street demolished ?, does not appear to have been damaged in WW2.
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 4th Nov 2014 7:30am
Hi Peter,

Do you have the marriage certificate of Edward & Ellen, it will give the approximate ages of both, Fathers names and occupation of Edward.
Their age would have been registered at death, it will help narrow it down. Edward's trade or occupation may have been a reason to leave Birkenhead, if they ever did.

The 1938 directory does not show them at Warwick St, however it wouldn't if they just rented rooms for example, though I think they probably have left by then.
Posted By: derekdwc Re: 32 Warwick Street - 4th Nov 2014 10:03am
Why was the street demolished ?, does not appear to have been damaged in WW2.


check out a previous post click here

Newish houses now built around there
Posted By: chriskay Re: 32 Warwick Street - 4th Nov 2014 12:33pm
Originally Posted by derekdwc
Why was the street demolished ?, does not appear to have been damaged in WW2.


check out a previous post click here

Newish houses now built around there


My grandparents lived in the next street; Windsor Street. One of the reasons these streets were demolished might have been that they never had electricity connected and had outside toilets.
Posted By: davew3 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 4th Nov 2014 7:22pm
Britain from the Air, has a few photos of Birkenhead and if my memory is correct, some of the 1946 ones showed pre-fabs and new houses built around Windsor st and Warwick st.

http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/
Posted By: peterjones Re: 32 Warwick Street - 4th Nov 2014 10:44pm
yes I have the marriage certificate.Married 7th April 1917,Edward was 32 and Ellen 30,Edwards Father was a William Jones a Carter by occupation.Ellens father John Roberts was deceased at the time
Regards
Peter
Posted By: chriskay Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 11:29am
Originally Posted by davew3
Britain from the Air, has a few photos of Birkenhead and if my memory is correct, some of the 1946 ones showed pre-fabs and new houses built around Windsor st and Warwick st.

http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/


The only pre-fabs I found there were around Park Station/Beckwith St.
Windsor St. & Warwick St were untouched during the war and survived until at least the 1960's.
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 5:11pm
Originally Posted by peterjones
yes I have the marriage certificate.Married 7th April 1917,Edward was 32 and Ellen 30,Edwards Father was a William Jones a Carter by occupation.Ellens father John Roberts was deceased at the time
Regards
Peter


The nearest deaths related to age and approximate births are
Ellen, Birkenhead 1936, age 47 8a 540. 1931, age 41 8a 772
Edward, Birkenhead 1947, age, 61 10a 21.

The ages were not always correctly recorded, it depended on who was registering the death actually knowing. If you haven't already done so, I would pursue Edward and with luck, Ellen will be with him.
Posted By: davew3 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 7:28pm
Your right Chris, it looks as if the pre-fabs are behind the building where Marriot's are now.


http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/eaw029292?search=birkenhead&ref=94
Posted By: chriskay Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 8:00pm
I've put a few more pins on that map, davew3.
Posted By: locomotive Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 8:34pm
I remember the prefabs between Carlisle St and Midland St and also in Carnforth St at the top of Oxton Rd. leading down to Borough Rd. I lived in Mornington St in the 40s early 50s, all the shops in Oxton Rd at the ends of Mornington St, and Clarendon St and the opposite side of Oxton Rd and down Carnforth St were destroyed by a land mine, we used to play on the bomb site when I was small, we used to get told off at some of the things we brought home, a horses skull springs to mind, It took two of us to carry it, I didn't sit down for a couple of days after that one, I must have been auditioning for a part in the Godfather
Posted By: ZipperClub Re: 32 Warwick Street - 5th Nov 2014 8:39pm
And
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/jones/thread/1137322
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 6th Nov 2014 7:29am
The 1911 census and 1916 directory show at 28 Warwick St,

Edward Jones, Bn 1886 Birkenhead
Elizabeth Jones,, nee Hughes, Bn 1887 Birkenhead
Edward Albert Jones,Bn 1910.

Was Edward a widower when of marring Ellen?
Posted By: peterjones Re: 32 Warwick Street - 8th Nov 2014 11:11am
Your a Star, will Do, Peter
Posted By: peterjones Re: 32 Warwick Street - 8th Nov 2014 11:12am
Excellent story
Posted By: peterjones Re: 32 Warwick Street - 8th Nov 2014 11:17am
Correct,Marvellous info-Forever in your Debt-Peter
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 8th Nov 2014 1:32pm
The possibility exists, Edward could be buried with his first wife Elizabeth and Ellen may also be with them. Elizabeth must have died between 1911 and 1917, again, nearest age related would be Elizabeth Jones, Birkenhead 1916, age 27, 8a 632.
I would favour checking Flaybrick burial records for that time, if found, the plot and grave number can help reveal other internments.
Posted By: peterjones Re: 32 Warwick Street - 16th Nov 2014 9:21pm
Now discovered my Grandfathers Death Cert showing he died at 32 Warwick St Birkenhead on the 19th of January 1931.Aged 46.Now referred to Flaybrick Records as that covers 1864-1960.Hopefully he's there.
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 17th Nov 2014 7:01am
That's handy, I'll nip in to the library later and check, save you a trip.
Posted By: bert1 Re: 32 Warwick Street - 17th Nov 2014 11:10am
Originally Posted by peterjones
Now discovered my Grandfathers Death Cert showing he died at 32 Warwick St Birkenhead on the 19th of January 1931.Aged 46.Now referred to Flaybrick Records as that covers 1864-1960.Hopefully he's there.



He is,
Edward Jones, 46 years old, 32 Warwick St, Carter, Buried 23 January 1931
Section 17, grave Number 779.

Also,
Ellen Jones, 47 years old, Buried 8 September 1936
Catherine Ann Godwin, 3 weeks old, 1941, Buried September.
David Lindsey Murphy, 1 year old, 1946, Buried September.
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