i have always been very interested in old ruins like this one... as i dont know much really, are there anything else simular to flint castle, very old ruins around wirral, or wales just as close to liverpool as flint castle is??

any pictures??. would be interested to read up about the places

not exactly ruins, but there's a great mott and bailey at Shotwick Castle. Wirral's only Norman castle.

Theres Ewloe castle in wepre wood. Its only a small ruin but its in a beautiful setting

Caergwrle,near wrexham,nice day out!

I was here yesterday, take a picnic and a camera, it's stunning. Caergwrle is good too, as the castle sits within an Iron Age hillfort

pics on here mate https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/445626/Ewloe_castle_flint.html#Post445626

Beeston Castle, just outside of Chester is worth a view. Also if you visit on the first Wednesday of the month they have a really good market & auction not far from the site.

IIRC correctly there is an Abbey somewhere in North Wales, been a long time since i been so can't remember the name.

Valley crucis abbey,llangollen maybe?

Or possibly basingwerk abbey near holywell ,

I was thinking it was near Llangollen, so it may be Valley Crucis Abbey. Especially, given the name, i assume it is in a valley, and you can see it from the road below you, which is what i remember?

Google says you have to pay there now, i never remember having to pay in the past.

Here's a link to the website:

Valle Crucis Abbey

Greenfield Valley Heritage Park

What is left of basingwerk abbey.

Nice place to look around and not far away.

We stumbled upon this place today when we were visiting the horseshoe pass, nice old place. Built around 1105 irc

Yeah nice isn't ste,great place llangollen!

Not done the town yet but was out at the aquaduct yesterday.

Yes, on the way home we went to Chester to visit the cathedral but couldn't find a legal parking space, we decided we would head home only to find that Chester are having new water pipes fitted and we were diverted through the busy shopping centre how embarrassing, my red car isn't the quietest of cars! There were people sitting eating lunch with us driving past in a tank which no matter how slow you drive it doesn't get any quieter
Next time I'll be taking the black one.

It's gas pipes actually. I love Chester but would never drive there; train is easy & there's a free bus from the station to the centre every 10 minutes.
Oh, & they want £5 entry to the cathedral now, unless you're attending a service.

There was a tramway that ran alongside the Horshoe Pass, past the abbey, and crossed over the stone arches to the canalside, it came down from the slate quarries on the top, there was an incline plane up to the top as well, just about still obvious. The route is pretty obvious alongside the road (on the left going up).

Excellent signalling on the railway as well......

On the subject of Llangollen,Dinas Bran castle is well worth seeing and the view from the top is breathtaking.Just follow the signs from the canal cafe.

Is that the ruin that is also known as Crow Castle? It used to give me the creeps when I was a child, seeing it from the river! Don't know why, but it did! Many years later I climbed up there (walked - not difficult) and tried to exorcise the creepy feeling!

Yes, that's it. Dinas Bran literally translates as Crow City.

thats brilliant, how far is that from liverpool would be interested in going with my camera

About an hour, maybe slightly more, by car. It's about 50 miles via the tunnel.