Could anyone be so kind as to tell me where Bedford Street was in Birkenhead, also, is it possible to find out how many occupants resided at 14 Hope st Birkenhead in January 1875 and their names. Thank you.

How far back we talking bert? Any chance Bedford Road was once a Street?

Snooze, 1871 in the parish of St Peter, Birkenhead.

Bedford Street off Hope St which was between Conway st and Beckwith street Hope st where Birkenhead bycycles is by the park

Thank you Derek, got anything on the residents of 14 Hope st 1875.

have you an inkling of a name to search 1881 census
I've been looking for ages to find a program that will let me search 1881 by any word eg street name.
Wonder if there's a street directory in main library for about that time
I don't know if earlier census can be searched by street(maybe a wiki member of Ancestry.com can look

Thanks Derek, I've made the link from 1871, 81 and 1891,censors what i was wondering, because of a birth certificate i have, who else lived in 14 Hope street in 1875.

If you go on Ancestry and look at the name you have for Hope St then the others in the street are listed. There's no census for in between years i.e. 1871 and 1881 has no in between years but you may be able to figure out who has gone. Only local records at where ever the archives are will help. Realise I may be teaching my Granny to suck eggs on this one. If you are not an Ancestry member then give me a PM and I'll see what I can find out for you. Need a name for Hope Street to start with though.

Thanks for the offer Bandy, My older sister got Ancestry for my Christmas present, Its easy to work this one out, she wants to know all the info, so she buys it for me, anyway, i have the birth certificate of my grandfather 1875,Hope St, I can pick his family up in 71 and 81 and more, what it is, kids have gone missing in between 71 and 81, not marriageable age, probably died, if it was possible to find out how many of the family lived in hope st in 1875, it would give me some idea when they died, i should mention the addresses in 71, 75, 81 are different.
I've only had this since Father Christmas brought it so i am more than happy to receive tips etc.

Burt,I have just had a look at 1881 and at no.14 there was a family named Turner. If this is who you are looking for I can give you more delails.

Thanks Bezzy, no, the family was Barker, 1875, by 81 they had moved, in 71 they wasn't there.

Ah,that makes it more difficult! Do you know what to do now?

Throw computer through the window. Its not that important, just a little side issue, whats more frustrating is, how do i find out the maiden name of my great, great grandmother, without leaving the house that is.

Marriage Cert'.

I've tried BDM on Ancestry, what comes up could be anyone, maybe I'm missing something, I'll keep trying.

Would you like to PM me the names that you have and I will have a look for you or will I be spoiling your fun?

Thanks Bezzy, I'll persevere myself, only been on it a couple of times, nice to know there are people i can turn to if and when i get stuck.

Anytime Bert.

just wondering if you have any maps of wilson st birkenhead in the 1960,s.
Thanks

Wilson st
I think the green mark was a derelict house and behind it was a field we called the bombie
I lived just by the swings

Could somebody please look up Jackson St in the 1891 census and if possible let me know the numbers of

1891

Bulls Head Public House, Jackson Street
Butchers Arms Public House, Jackson Street
and any other pubs etc that may be in that street
I am trying to find the name of the inn on map

Bulls Head was number 87
Butchers Arms was number 90

No other pubs on the 1891 census but there was one called Durham Ox? on the 1881 census at number 92 Jackson Street which was the only one on the street at the time of the census

Hope that helps

thank you LisaW
sorry but can I ask you what are the highest numbers Jackson St goes up to in the censuses.
I didn't know you could do searches by street
I have 1881 census on cd and can't only by surnames

trying to find a map covering Jackson St with house numbers on.
I think Durham ox and bulls head may be same pub possibly
(can you check who lived in them 1881 and 1891 please)

In wilmers 1916 street directory there are only even numbers going up to 88 - no odd numbers.
All those below Blackpool Street (wasn't that the lowest point in Birkenhead once?)must have been demolished sometime between 1891 and 1916 to extend the gasworks.
Looking at the map there doesn't seem to be many buildings
on the Birkenhead Town station side until below Blackpool St where the pub number is 87

change that to Durham ox and Butchers Arms
The inn marked on map must have been Butchers Arms

Here's the O.S. map from 1904/1910. Quite a difference. A lot of demolition has taken place & the gasworks has been moved & Mollington St. sheds have been built.

What info does Wilmers street directory have? Where was Wesley street? And who lived at number 10 about 1916 period? Any help appreciated.

1881 - Jackson Street went up to no' 92 which was the Durham Ox

1881 census for Durham Ox

BROWN, Elizabeth b.1843 Landlady Of Hotel
SINGLETON, Elizabeth b.1834 Housemaid
ELLIS,Thomas Servant b.1835 Barman
PARKER, David Servant 1854 Under Barman

1891 - Jackson Street went up to no' 90 which was the Butchers Arms

Butchers Arms (no' 90) Beerseller
John Batty b.1849
Eliza Batty b. 1854
Constant Edith Batty b.1880
Edward Bertram Batty b.1883


Bulls Head (no' 87)

Nathaniel Harding 1859 Blacksmith and Licenced Victualler
Alice Harding 51
Elizabeth Harding 9
Thomas Harding 8
Arthur Harding 3
Amy Harding

Alice Harding b.1860
Elizabeth Harding b.1882
Thomas Harding b.1883
Arthur Harding b.1888
Amy Harding b.1890

Hope that helps

Address:

Can't help with 1916 but this was the 1911 census:

10 Wesley Street Birkenhead County: Cheshire

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JAMES, Thomas Head Widower M 59 1852 General Labour Gwennafield Flintshire
OWEN, Daniel Boarder Single M 61 1850 General Labour Bagiell Flintshire
ROBERTS, Harry Boarder Widower M 66 1845 Ship Plate Rivetter Birkenhead Cheshire
REES, Clara Housekeeper Married F 45 1866 House Keeper Shrewbury Shropshire

Wilmers has all the streets of Birkenhead alphabetically and just one name of who lives and occupation in a house number.
Also seperately a business pdf with address
1916 10 Wesley Street thomas jones labourer
funny I knew the lads who lived in nos 8,10,12,14 in the late 50s

The surviving Licence Registers (1880 onwards) reveal that there were at one point three beerhouses in Jackson Street, at nos. 62, 87 and 90. Only the last one has a name recorded - the Butchers' Arms.

The one marked on your 1875 OS map, however, was no. 92, and is marked on the large scale OS plan as the Durham Ox Inn (a common name for pubs near slaughterhouses - there was once one in Liverpool up near Trowbridge Street). This pub, the houses adjoining and the slaughterhouse were demolished some time between 1875 and 1880 when the Gasworks were enlarged, as they don't appear on an 1880 revision of the large scale map.

Of the three beerhouses, no. 87 appears to have closed in 1891, the licence for the Butchers' Arms lapsed in 1896, and the one at no. 62 was reported closed in July 1903.

Sorry, ignore last post - I was trying to edit it when the phone went, and by the time I'd finished the 15 minute editing window had passed! Damn!!

It should read as follows:

The surviving Licence Registers (1880 onwards) reveal that there were at one point three beerhouses in Jackson Street, at nos. 62, 87 and 90. Only the last one has a name recorded - the Butchers' Arms.

The pub marked on your 1875 OS map, however, was no. 92, and is marked on the large scale OS plan as the Durham Ox Inn (a common name for pubs near slaughterhouses - there was once one in Liverpool up near Trowbridge Street). This pub, the houses adjoining and the slaughterhouse were demolished some time around 1885 when the Gasworks were enlarged - The Durham Ox's licence was not renewed for 1884/5.

Of the three beerhouses, no. 87 appears to have closed in 1891, the licence for the Butchers' Arms lapsed in 1896, and the one at no. 62 was reported closed in July 1903.

Where can I get hold of this Willmers Street directory, tried Google but nothing.

Not Willmers, but other directories for the area are HERE

Many thanks dd

Hi Dave
I got mine from: Back to Roots (UK) Ltd. £9.99 here.
There's also Slaters Liverpool 1863 for our area.
Brian

Some more Liverpool and Lancashire directories are on 'Parish Chest'.

Bri

'Parish Chest' interesting site
Has anyone bought for £20 and tell me what it's like for coverage of Birkenhead and Wallasey

Cheshire Ordnance Survey Maps. Single CD
Ref: NWA-CD1

D. Cheshire Maps 1900-1912. 25 inch to 1 mile maps.

http://www.parishchest.com/Maps_of_Cheshire_listed_by_Product__LID7383

I haven't seen this one but check the Godfrey website for their 1897-1909 OS reprints. They are very clear, printed at 15'' to a mile, and saves you buying, on the cd, areas you are not interested in. Not all Wirral is covered. Bidston to Port Sunlight area is done on 7 sheets. They also have excellent social and topographical write-ups on the back, for each area.
Bri