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Posted By: Archaeo Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 10:24am
Hi,


I wondered if anyone on here can assist me with a bit of research. I'm looking to map any caves that are in existence in Wirral and west Cheshire. It's part of a bit of research in landscape archaeology but it's surprising how much local knowledge is considerably better than in books.

If you could list any that you know of, I'd be hugely appreciative.

Thanks,

Dean
Posted By: ghostly1 Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 10:51am
frodsham caves, the dungeon at thrustaston and the caves on hilbre island are the only ones i know of, hope this helps??

I am sure there are more than this that other people on here will know of!!
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 1:24pm
There are caves in bidston village, DD will tell you, only thing is they`re in someones back garden, you can still see them as the fence is only small to stop horses getting out smile
Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 1:30pm
small 1 in bidston



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Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 1:33pm
And heswall

pic lol


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Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 1:58pm
Helsby (as well as Frodsham that is already mentioned)

New Brighton

Beeston
Posted By: jabber_Ish Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 5:07pm
robbo that picture of the cave, is that where the path past the dungeon ends up ? in the back garden ?
Posted By: Rhoobarb Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 8:56pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Helsby (as well as Frodsham that is already mentioned)

New Brighton

Beeston


Is that the one on the Sandstone Trail?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 9:08pm
There are caves on the sandstone cliff at Helsby hill although I have never seen them.

A map and pictures of the Frodsham caves are HERE
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Caves in Wirral - 3rd Jul 2010 10:14pm
qwhere are the ones in new brighton may i ask ?
Posted By: chev_chelios Re: Caves in Wirral - 4th Jul 2010 1:06am
Originally Posted by _Ste_
qwhere are the ones in new brighton may i ask ?
theres the smugglers tunnels in new brighton. Wellington rd in some 1.s garden. They on the very informative .. site and some other blokes pages mike 4get the surname lol
Posted By: derekdwc Re: Caves in Wirral - 4th Jul 2010 10:20am
New Brighton
A friend tells me that there used to be a tunnel he went in in the 50s the entrance to which was by the Red Nose rocks by the sunken car park New Brighton
He says it was eventually blocked off with rocks and cement


also Yellow Noses to the entrance in the guys' garden

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Posted By: carcol2006 Re: Caves in Wirral - 4th Jul 2010 11:49am
The caves in New Brighton are called Wormhole Caves and are in the entrance to them is in the rear garden of Number 56 Wellington Road the house used to be owned by the architect Norman Kingham who also used to own the Fort Perch Rock and the Lighthouse
Posted By: Archaeo Re: Caves in Wirral - 5th Jul 2010 9:46am
thanks for this everyone, much appreciated.
Posted By: bri445 Re: Caves in Wirral - 6th Jul 2010 8:11pm
This is my fairly well known engraving of what I assume is the Red Noses, before reclamation almost covered them.Is it dateable?

Would that be Rock Villa in the background?


Description: Bartlett - New Brighton
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Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Caves in Wirral - 6th Jul 2010 9:30pm
That's from a steel engraving dated in the 1860's, there is one on ebay at the moment. Elsewhere it is dated c1840
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Caves in Wirral - 7th Jul 2010 3:00am
my boss lives in rock villa and its all sandstone so the 1 in the front cant be (the white 1)
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Caves in Wirral - 7th Jul 2010 3:01am
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
That's from a steel engraving dated in the 1860's, there is one on ebay at the moment. Elsewhere it is dated c1840


whats the number?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Caves in Wirral - 7th Jul 2010 3:43pm
links ....

EBAY

The picture is taken from the book "The Ports, Harbours, Watering-Places, and Coast Scenery of Great Britain" by W H Bartlett which can be viewed HERE

The picture was drawn by W H Bartlett and engraved by W Mossman


Posted By: bri445 Re: Caves in Wirral - 7th Jul 2010 5:58pm
Thanks for the book gen. I have some of the prints and the pdf version has given me the description text. The book was published in 1842.
Other local views are of North Wales bridges, castles and harbours and on Merseyside the Canning Dock, St. Nicholas' Church, the Mersey and, of course, the New Brighton one.
The book is actually available as a smaller-sized reprint but the larger 2 volume original is on Abe for anything between £184 and £611, depending on condition.
Bri
Posted By: Nelzy84 Re: Caves in Wirral - 15th Feb 2011 11:37pm
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Shallow cave in Thurstaston Dungeon
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