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Posted By: venice Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 12:28pm
Today there was an article on the news about a kids TV programme called the Ooglies. It portrays animated food 'characters' interacting with each other.A mum had complained about a particular episode in which a finger of toast soldier wielded a non animated butter knife to decapitate an animated egg character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNGwndLiCio

The BBC have defended the programme and twitter is split down the middle.

I was minding six yr olds a while ago when a prog came on called the 'annoying orange' which is an American series of the same ilk. I was quite put out to watch the fruit and veg in that , are shown stabbing each other in 'the eye', it shows presumably the kitchen owners knife coming down and sawing across the fruit with 'appropriate gunge oozing out, whilst the fruit screams and resists ....and so on .
I switched off because I thought it was highly unsuitable and desensitizing somehow.

What do wikifolk think?

Posted By: venice Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 12:41pm
Heres an example, not the most disturbing by any means, of the 'annoying orange'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOqHL4xlyhA

Whatever happened to Muffin the Mule , Andy Pandy and Bill and Ben !! Far more suitable in my opinion. I cringe to think of litte toddlers watching the likes of the above ,with their brothers and sisters.
Somehow these fruits and veg that have human eyes and teeth and voices etc make it just not the same as Tom and Jerry and other animated characters bashing each other.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 1:16pm
Look!! Celeb get me out of here had live creatures being ate on t.v last week. So animated nonsense is not going to leave any lasting scares, surely??

Posted By: casper Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 1:28pm
Muffin got done for gross indecency camera
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 1:43pm
I have de-capitated many a boiled egg and not once thought of ISIS, when doing so!
Posted By: j_demo Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:09pm
The words "mountain" and "molehill" come to mind.
Posted By: granny Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:10pm
These sort of things can influence children.

My younger son, at the age of 4 was told by his older brother of 6, he would turn into the incredible hulk if he ate his peas and green beans.

I never managed to get a green vegetable past his lips ,ever again, even though he didn't remember the reason why he wouldn't eat them.

One of the children who killed little Jamie Bulger had watched his mother chop up chickens from a tender age.

All these things go towards twisting the thought process, and the more gentle programmes the children watch, the more beneficial they are, in my thoughts. It teaches them how to care and share, rather than to be angry, bully and intimidate. Some of those children's tv programmes are pretty disgusting for the age groups, and everything they view teaches them something.

If you teach a dog to bite, it will bite because they can't reason. Neither can children 'reason' before a certain age..

Posted By: cools Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:27pm
I've got to agree with Venice and Granny I think the tv for toddlers which I watch now with my two year old is terrible, apart from Peppa Pig ,that's ok. I think it's a generation thing and to the younger ones we're considered outdated. Got to agree watch with mother and Andy Pandy ragtag and bobtail much much better. I've also noticed a lot of the progs for little ones all American and Canadian accents. Bring back some good old as you say Granny gentle to...
Posted By: granny Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:27pm
There is also the problem that many children are poked in front of a television without any adult available to explain anything to them.

One of the question on mental health tick box questionnaire is : Does the television give you messages ?

Think about it !
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:43pm
Originally Posted by cools
I I think the tv for toddlers which I watch now with my two year old is terrible, apart from Peppa Pig ,that's ok.
Love Pepper Pig although she can be a stroppy mare!!
Posted By: cools Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 2:57pm
Ha yeah she can be. It's funny now every Time we see a pic or a toy of Peppa ,I say whose that and he shouts Peppa and includes the grunt. Hope he grows out of that, lol...
Posted By: venice Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 3:22pm
Originally Posted by lollipop
Look!! Celeb get me out of here had live creatures being ate on t.v last week. So animated nonsense is not going to leave any lasting scares, surely??



Isnt that after the watershed though? Not intended for kiddies .
Posted By: venice Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 3:49pm
Did you all watch to the end of the annoying orange though ? Cant believe anyone would think its good viewing for tots to see something appearing to have its brains pulled out and looking scared whilst its friend stands by watching with also a scared look on its face. Its just unecessary gruesomeness.Its like prog makers are pushing the limits on trying to make horror films for little ones.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 4:16pm
The 'Annoying Orange' clip was hideous. The characters even look evil, dead behind the eyes.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 4:51pm
The Orange thing is purile and banal crap ! The worst of what gets washed up on these shores from the other side of the pond. Not the slightest bit funny or entertaining. If idiots are sitting their young offspring down in front of this utter bilge, then Heaven help us all !
Sometimes, I really DO despair.

After about 3 minutes of it I lost the will to live. Pass the sickbag............
Its difficult how to legislate this stuff, Tom and Jerry is full of violence, punishment, anger, injuries and nasty tricks - but no gore.

The BBC can just say that is normal to chop the top off an egg (which is true), how could you document the difference in attitude from Tom and Jerry?

Posted By: starakita Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 6:26pm
That was a load of rubbish,I'm glad my kids are older sat through enough kids programmes when they were small.My youngest daughter was scared of big cook little cook,she couldn't understand how the small one was small,hard to explain he was normal size it was camera work.
Posted By: lonrock Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 9:12pm
Back in the 70's "Rainbow" might have shown something like Zippy with a rubber arrow stuck to his forhead after an errant shot by Bungle. All kinds of slapstick comedy back then, even for kids, which was fine.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 9:56pm
Originally Posted by lonrock
Back in the 70's "Rainbow" might have shown something like Zippy with a rubber arrow stuck to his forhead after an errant shot by Bungle. All kinds of slapstick comedy back then, even for kids, which was fine.
Double entrendes galore in Rainbow, in hindsight. Who remembers 'Master Bates' from Captain Pugwash?? I certainly did not realise any inappropriateness / connotation as a child in the late 70s/ early 80s.

Likewise, I see no 'ISIS style beheadings' of a cartooned egg by a butter knife. Just what it is?? Boiled eggs get their tops cut off. Maybe the Ooglies could have portrayed the egg getting the top of its 'head' bashed in by a spoon, instead? Would that be considered a-kin to 'extreme violence'??

With saying that I watched a documentary a while ago, screened on R.T. It was about how (mainly) boys are de-sensitised to violence and aggression- one bit I remember is how Action Man Dolls today are portrayed as big, grossly dis-proportionate muscly looking articles as opposed to 70s Action Man dolls that were basically (Barbies) Ken dolls with moveable eyes!! Video games etc came into the equation too. Trying to find the link......

That 'Annoying Orange' was just wrong, on so many levels. I would not sit through THAT with my grandaughter and I very much doubt that her parents would either!!!
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 10:13pm
Posted By: eddtheduck Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 10:16pm
Master Mates and a Pirate Willy, characters like Seaman Staines, Roger the Cabin Boy and Master Bates just did not exist on board the Black Pig pirate ship.

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as for kids copying tv shows, how many of us old guys ran around in our coat with the top button done playing batman or doing the crane kick from karate kid on your mate raftl or playing as The A team.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 10:29pm
I'm concerned how the children of today can eat a boiled egg, in a non-violent way!!?? FFS- ridiculous.

Do the parents de-capitate it 'ISIS style' or 'bash it in' gangster style (with a spoon)' AND should this be out of visible view of the child?
Posted By: Excoriator Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 11th Dec 2015 10:29pm
You can see why the Americans are such a bellicose country, and why their citizens are so trigger-happy. Being brought up on this sort of stuff, it is not surprising they end up with such a distorted view of the world.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 12th Dec 2015 12:45am
Add to that the subliminal porn in some Disney cartoons. Animators just having a laugh?
Posted By: granny Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 12th Dec 2015 12:46am
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX


When we think about how many peadophiles have been connected to the BBC, this gives a whole new meaning to Rainbow. Was it produced before everyone had double meanings for everything or afterwards ?
Posted By: eddtheduck Re: Controversial TV material for children. - 12th Dec 2015 3:31pm
No. It was meant as a little in-joke and shown to friends of the people who worked on the show. The interesting thing is, Rainbow was actually made by the same people who made the Carry On movies, which explains a lot about the sense of humor. lol
I'd guess this episode was put together for the "Happy Christmas VT" tape that used to be put together unofficially and behind the scenes every year.

The tape preceded the "blooper" or out-take films that are quite common these days, whenever a presenter made a mistake during a recording they often used to say "happy Christmas VT" knowing the VT (video tape) department would add it to their collection.

The tape usually came with some pornography added on the end.
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