http://www.nomorekidsinpoverty.uk/

Children in poverty are the next victims of George Osborne’s Budget. He wants to cut child tax credits - the essential support for families who aren’t getting paid enough to live on.

All children deserve to start life on an equal footing. But low wages can put barriers in the way of a happy and healthy childhood. That’s why some of the poorest families get help to pay for essentials, like healthy food and school uniforms.

This support means thousands of children don’t have to experience poverty at the start of their lives.

Osborne equals Arsehole, along with the rest of the Tory ... !.

well all i have to say is "i hope everybody who voted for them are happy now"!!

Budget Protest July 8th:

On July 8th the Tories will announce £12bn of welfare cuts in the emergency budget. On this day people up and down the country will be taking to the streets to stand against the ideological (not economical!) policies that these welfare cuts represent; and Merseyside will be joining them! Liverpool made the national news on June 20th as the nation stood side by side against the governments austerity measures, and we plan to do the same again on July 8th. Stand with us and make sure the Tories hear our dissent loud and clear! https://www.facebook.com/events/701419316652122/

Dont forget your whistles, and buckets for the bull shit.

Labour wouldn't have done anything any different if they'd won.

You're right, but clearly some of the contributors here want us to vote for the Socialist Workers Party who, if elected, would make everything all right.

We could all move to Greece - no Austerity there, heck no!

If people here only knew how corrupt the Greeks are, and everyone is at it, then they wouldn't be shedding so many tears. Everything, and I mean everything, is done on kickback but they don't mind because they're all at it and it is expected. Therefore it also follows that the ones further up the food chain do better than those at the bottom, same as in every system. Would you lend money to someone who you knew had no intention of paying you back, especially if you're not particularly well off yourself? I thought not.
Kids in poverty? I don't see kids running round with no shoes like they used to. They all seem to have mobile phones, computers, go on holidays to wherever and we have a childhood obesity crisis apparently. Someone's telling porkies and I think I know which side that is.

Which is why we need some new political parties - bring on Respect!

Exactly DD,totally agree with you on that.xx

Is that a picture of Tony Blair washing his hands for dinner?

When I left the RN after 11 years service, 7 as a submariner, I did a capstan setter operators course to obtain employment in civvy street. I couldn't get a job until I joined a union, I couldn't join a union until I had a job, CLOSED SHOP. Guess who I think are keeping people down?
To keep my family I've picked potatoes, picked sprouts, driven buses, conducted buses, packed pork pies for hours on end, worked in bakeries, did a fibre optics installation course which also turn out dud. I've spent years away from my home town to stay in work and done time in the Falklands, Former Jugoslavia, Middle East, Far East and defence work which you could only dream about. What makes you think that you have the right call me ...? I worked to make sure my kids had what they deserved instead of expecting someone else to pick up my bills. So do one as far as I'm concerned, Unions I've shit 'em, and if it wasn't for them we would still have a dock industry round here, another job I was prevented from taking up.

Gordon Brown calculated the tax credit would cost £2 billion, it is now costing £30 billion. Unsustainable. Lets get the companies paying decent wages instead of being propped up by the government. They are still making the same amount of profits, so why not share them to all their staff.

Tax Credits and minimum wage were the worst possible things that Brown introduced. (apart from selling our gold reserves when the price was at it's lowest) F....ing idiot.

I clicked on this link and saw a different thing???? more of protest march on facebook.

Bravo, Bandy, spot on. If there were a few more like you, this country wouldn't be running a deficit.

I suppose that means that they all have an i-phone6, a playstation and enough fast food to make them fat.
Oh, and I loved the bit in the link to the protestmerseyside rally call:
"OXI to Osborne's budget"
two days before it's published; how closed minded can you get?
Clear off to Greece the lot of you.

We're getting sucked in Chris but I can't just read it and let it go sometimes. It's hard to keep the tone down sometimes eh?
Child poverty? I've seen child poverty when I was going away and there isn't any here that's anything like it, except maybe for the loafers who are streaming into the country to leech.

As a single parent I have child minded in the day while pulling pints of an evening when they were young and as they were older driven taxis all hours of day and night to put a roof over our head and food on the table.
I find it hard to believe that so many people seem unable to grasp that until there are more people putting into the money pot than taking out things will only get worse, and whinging about the hard deal they get doesn't gain them any popularity points.

Child poverty exists even in rich families, just because its not visible in public does not mean that that children aren't living in poverty/squalor.

I know a millionaire whose kid's teeth were totally rotten, they had never been treated by a dentist, that kid didn't have an iphone 6 or virtually anything else.

I've come across kids where the school have to send teachers out to their home every day to get the kids dressed because the parents are in bed smacked out every morning - needless to say there was never any food in the cupboards and surprise surprise these kids haven't got an iphone 6.

I've come across kids under 12 who do everything in the household like cooking all the meals etc as well as looking after the younger siblings - no, you won't find them hanging around on street corners with their non-existent iphone 6.

There are kids that go early to school and have a shower because there is never any electricity or soap at home.

Child poverty exists but it isn't always in the form that you immediately think off. Just because some parents take family responsibility seriously does not mean that all of them do and just because a parent isn't in poverty it doesn't mean the children aren't.

"I don't see it outside my gate" does not justify generalisms on a national scale.

Parents being forced to be away from home to earn a crust for their family is not a solution, it is a moral wrong!

Yeah DD, I read all about that too. Like I've said before and elsewhere, I've travelled the world quite a bit and believe you me I've seen real poverty and it's not anywhere I've been in UK, even in the bad old 40's and 50's which was bad enough. But then again we were recovering from a war.

The kids you describe, DD, truly have my sympathy; no child should have to live like that. Why doesn't the Council step in, remove them and place them with foster parents who would love them?

Its difficult, if there is no active emotional/physical abuse and there is still clear emotional attachment then as it is a stable family unit (with reservations) they have to balance the trauma of separation (especially with multiple siblings) against the damage currently being done. Some of the social workers were brilliant but there is always a limit to how much time they can put in for each family.

ooh it must have so uncomfortable for you when you sh.t the unions, no wonder you're always so angry!

l don't get angry anymore, just pished off. What's done is done and nothing can be recalled. I still remember the sheer bloody mindedness of them though and am well versed with the rackets they pull. Why people still believe the propaganda I just can't fathom. I believe what I observe not what I'm told.

I don't think there are any real closed shops now apart from some acting jobs and associated industries. The Wapping Dispute just about put paid to them.

There were some good reasons for some closed shops (not all) but it got totally out of control and the Government should have legislated years before hand.

Unions like the Labour party got infiltrated with ultra-left wingers and/or thugs, there were plenty of losers and no winners out of these things happening.

I like to live for the now and not harp on about back in my day, like an old Monty python sketch.

life in 1970 appears to have been ludicrously cheap. A loaf of bread cost 9p and the average weekly wage was around £32.

Today, a loaf costs £1.50 and weekly wage £488.58

In 1970, homebuyer could expect to pay £4,975 for a house. Today, their children would not get much change from £175,000

It was a similar story on the roads. The Range Rover, which was launched in 1970, could have been yours for £1,998. Almost a quarter of a century later, a 4.4 TDV6 Range Rover Vogue will set you back £74,950

The Mini, which celebrated its 11th birthday in 1970, cost around £600. Its redesigned descendant now sells for MINI Cooper S is priced from around £18,650

A trip for two to the cinema cost less than 90p, compared with at least £3.60 today (if you don't buy popcorn or sweets)

bottle of whisky cost £2.69 back then, compared with £22.10 (Bells 1litre) today

A pint of lager in your local was 20p, a far cry from today where it's anything from £2.95 to £3.60

I know smoking so a big no no now but cigarettes, which enjoyed a lot more popularity then, were 20p for 20. Today, average price for a packet of cigarettes is now £7.98

some things have even risen for the better. In 1970, the average life expectancy in Britain was 72. Today, it is 77 - giving us five more years of spending.

the population of the uk in 1970 was 55.66 million
The population of the Uk is estimated at 63,489,234 as of July 1 2014. U.K (no count for 2015 yet)

in the 70s we had Factories that most of us worked in, we had mines there was fishmongers in every town same as butchers and real bakers who made bread, there was a pub on every street where you could walk in a say our Fred is looking for a job and 10-20 people would say I need someone.

2015 not many Factories around now (I can only think of two)
Tulips and the chicken one in Deeside I know vauxhalls ellesmere port but it's keeps letting people go only to sign them back up months later, fishmongers in most supermarkets like butchers and bakers, go In a pub today and say our Fred is looking for a Job and all you'll get is some smartass saying another Dole ..., or a glass in your face.

I could sit and Dwell on the past but lets look at the now

foodbanks, the red cross asking for money for the uk, kids going to school where that's the only meal they will get, yes we can all say WELL I'VE GOT A JOB, but now many of us can say there job is for life? we could all lose our jobs/partner.

rant over

Just going through those items in real terms using inflation as about 1400% between 1970 and 2015

Bread is slightly dearer now.
Houses are a lot dearer now.
Range Rover is a lot dearer now.
Mini is a lot dearer now.
Cinema is a lot cheaper now.
Whisky is a lot cheaper now.
Lager is about the same price.
Cigarettes are a lot dearer now.

Sorry to say, but I find this rather strange. Understanding a comparison is the purpose of the last two posts, but as we are talking about children in poverty, surely the comparisons should made against, school shoes, school uniform, books, toys ,children's clothes etc. rather than whisky, lager, cigarettes, and cars.


Maybe there are so many children in poverty now, due to the parent/s using their money for such personal, gratifying items ?

So true, Granny.

children in poverty, sorry if I'm wrong but don't you get dinners school shoes, school uniform free if your in poverty same with books?

As for toys, they can do without them as toys are Luxury items and not a need.

This is all Tongue and Cheek

Children happen to eat more than once a day, and if the money provided is being spent on cigs and beer ,it has to be questioned. Just like all the parents who get their kids diagnosed with ADHD ( extra benefits) and then give them energy drinks to go to school with.

Then there's the midwives who did home deliveries on the Woodchurch (1980's) with the husbands drunk in bed beside their wives as they gave birth. Maybe those children never had any guidance in raising children.

You think I'm joking ? Well, it's no joke and for being so cheeky Ducky, you can sit on the naughty step and wait for your someone to come and collect you.

(I do know what you were getting at, just had to raise a small issue as Grannies do )

I haven't read here any further posts arguing against the consensus that poverty in the main is a myth and that sensible budgeting is the answer to most people's problems. Protesting en-masse by those who think it's the states duty to give them a bigger slice of the cake won't change anything.
I agree wholeheartedly with Bandy Coot's observations; we both came from the same area in Birkenhead, and know what life was like back in the forties and fifties. It was an age when the newly formed welfare state was shunned by most as the answer to their problems. Wages were crap for our fathers, but no way would my dad expect anybody other than himself to provide a home for his wife and kids, no matter how hard up he was. Last year's housing benefit bill was a massive £24billion. And people still argue that the state isn't providing them with enough freebies.

But a lot of people on housing benefit are not in poverty.

Likewise there are many people in poverty that are not entitled to housing benefit.

Saying I survived xxxx therefore everyone else should be able to is meaningless and is a way to drag everyone down to the lowest level. Why not go back earlier and compare income then to now? Do we really think servitude is acceptable and not a form of poverty?

The topic is about kids in poverty - most kids have zero control over the household budget - no amount of budgeting on their part is going to get them out of poverty.

I'll also repeat again - who should get paid more, a bin man or a banker? The welfare system is a means to redistribute the common wealth from an unfair wages system, its a way a balancing the unjust, not simply a handout.