The almost certainty is that the same applies to all parties. Look at Chukka .. he is a perfect example. Trying to claw his way to the top by hopping from one to another. The country has been split by far too many interfering , like Blair and Major, Miller and so many more , but I really don't know what all the critics of the new cabinet and leader would prefer.
If they actually said, it might make some sense. We need a Government, so which Government ? Tell me which Government would those on here who have decided they again don't like the tory line up or Boris, or May, or any of them, which Government with which leaders ???
My daughter is strong pro Corbyn, she thinks he's the best ever !! ( but she's a teacher , so that says it all . Like sheep to the slaughter) One son voted leave but is convinced it won't happen, the other son voted leave despite being pro Europe initially but has a brain and figured all things for himself without anyone else's persuasion. As a family , we never really discuss it, apart from my daughter being so hot under the collar if the subject is raised, so we don't raise it.
It is my grandchildren who I am concerned for , but I suppose living in a European State , like America, with a large dollop of socialism on the edge of communist countries will always be preferable to being an independant nation, where we can elect our own .
741 million people and 7 more countries waiting to join the EU. Let's not forget these people will be shared out , not evenly, but according to where they wish to live and work . To control all people in all nations will need a lot of enforcement , and as times move on, the punishments will be set in Brussels for all to abide by.
One clear example is the evolvement in the prison services
In 2005 .. https://www.epsu.org/sites/default/files/article/files/PSIRUprisonreport2005-2.pdf
quote " The Council of Europe‟s Parliamentary Assembly has also expressed a wish
for a European Prisons Charter that would “set common standards for the
harmonisation of penalties and detention conditions and the monitoring of
The European Prison Rules are being revised and will
address the emergence of privately run prisons. But these rules are not
formally binding on member states.
Meanwhile, the EC is fully committed to privatisation through the use of public
private partnerships for new infrastructure and the provision of services.
Neither the EC‟s Green Paper on Public Private Partnerships nor the
„Bolkestein Directive‟ regarding services in the internal market specifically
mention criminal justice services. But nor are they exempted from
consideration. However, this could be interpreted as a rejection of the moral
and ethical objections to private sector involvement in owning criminal justice
infrastructure, operating services and shaping policy as well as a dismissal of
the international evidence that, operationally, prison privatisation is the wrong
The neo-liberal agenda includes the dismantling of public criminal justice services..." . unquote
All very encompassing, and part of the integration that has continued to dominate all our services and as there is a little mention about ' not being formerly binding on member states' that always allows the blame and finger pointing to be directed at a national government , which is precisely what we have been doing over the last how ever many years . The day will come when we won't have a choice of who makes the laws, and you know that as well as anyone. Who will be leading the EU in 20 yrs time ? We only know what we know now, but in this country we still have the option to vote for change not an unelected bunch of bureaucrats (that's a French word too ) . We could be ruled by the ex Albanians, Romanians, Latvians, and all pre eastern block countries who grew up under communism and don't know true democracy, because if they are member states, they have to have positions of power at one level or another.
Animal suffering is horrendous in those countries particularly Albania but they are animals themselves even now, and all mainly Muslim countries. Different cultures will never totally mix. We can live amongst and be civil to each other and it should work both ways, but to mix cultures from 1000's of years ago is not going to work . Blood bath !
That's my lot.. hope everyone gets their own political wish come true.