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Posted By: granny British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 8:29am


There's a call this morning for British IS fighters to be killed.

As much as I oppose capital punishment, in this instance I would agree. What else can be done with them ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41717394

Posted By: Excoriator Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 8:47am
A simple-minded inhumane solution which clearly appeals to the simple minded and inhumane.
Posted By: cools Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 9:21am
Yep Granny I've got to agree, if they want to go down this path well they deserve to be killed!! Maybe more would think twice before becoming a terrorist. So boring you are Ex, got to disagree with everything haven't you , such a ---------!!!!!!!
Posted By: snowhite Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 9:46am
I also agree.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 10:11am
Not quite sure why its news...If they are fighting against us then like any enemy they can be killed. We don't have laws in this country to kill them if they return (or do we ?) . If they are captured in another country then I would have thought the laws governing that country should apply. We didn't execute all German POWs.
Torture might be better...lock em up and make them listen to Justin Bieber for the rest of their lives
Posted By: granny Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 10:19am


Double standards usually take priority in such matters. Those who think euthanasia should be made legal, and consider it the right solution for others !?

Yet the same would be prepared for their grandchildren to witness heads on spikes around Arrow park roundabout , as happened on that now famous roundabout in Raqqa and have no feeling of anything other but 'love' to the perpetrators !!

Very strange.


Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 10:44am
We haven't declared war, therefore we have no legal authority to kill anyone unless we are defending our land against an attack. If they are captured or if they surrender we have no legal authority to kill them.

Generally I'm in favour of bringing back the death sentence but spineless politicians combined with media control will never let it happen. Perhaps the fake news media are frightened of being executed for treason.

I'm trying to remember if desertion is still a capital offence in the UK forces, I don't remember it being repealed. That would be double standards if its still in force.
Posted By: cools Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 10:52am
Well we don't want them back here , prisons at bursting point, then when they are imprisoned they have the cheek like that scumbag that killed Lee Rigby to try to sue for rubbish and because of human rights etc it cost the country thousand's!! Something in his water would suit me , oh dear he's had a heart attack yes
Posted By: granny Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 11:07am


The way I see it, is they converted to Islam, they were happy to do so, therefore let Islam deal with their ending.

The Christian bunny will be pulled out of the hat somewhere along the line. In this instance Christian values should not interfere into a non Christian ethics . ( and interference only happens when it appeals to the non Christians trying to score brownie points).
I also thing that the Church and the Archbishop should keep out of it.
There is nothing to say that these fighters will not encourage others to do the same again,either by their incarceration or through their families and contacts.
Posted By: assassin Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 12:44pm
The thing is if we where going to kill them isn't this what they want? I myself think if they are happy to kill themselves will the threat of being killed stop them?

I may be on my own but I say pump their veins with bacon fat wink
Posted By: Excoriator Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 1:49pm
I've already pointed out the attraction of this idea to the simple-minded. There is really no need to demonstrate the truth of my observation with more posts.
Posted By: Excoriator Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 2:00pm
I think the clown who called for this is trying to improve his political profile. As Wilde pointed out: "There is only one thing worse than being talked about and that is NOT being talked about"!

Very true in politics.

He's also pro-EU by the way!
Posted By: cools Re: British IS Fighters - 23rd Oct 2017 2:35pm
Ex, YAWN YAWN YAWN, boring as I said!!!! sleep
Posted By: Touchstone Re: British IS Fighters - 30th Oct 2017 7:51pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


I'm trying to remember if desertion is still a capital offence in the UK forces, I don't remember it being repealed. That would be double standards if its still in force.


I believe all capital offences were taken off the Statute Book in 1998. Offences like Mutiny On The High Seas, Arson In A Naval Dockyard etc.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: British IS Fighters - 30th Oct 2017 9:14pm
Originally Posted by Touchstone
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


I'm trying to remember if desertion is still a capital offence in the UK forces, I don't remember it being repealed. That would be double standards if its still in force.


I believe all capital offences were taken off the Statute Book in 1998. Offences like Mutiny On The High Seas, Arson In A Naval Dockyard etc.


The statute book is civilian law, Court Martials are Service Law which I wasn't sure had been changed. Anyway, it appears it has changed with the worst penalties being an unlimited fine or five years in the slammer.
Posted By: granny Re: British IS Fighters - 3rd Nov 2017 11:23pm

Did anyone watch Newsnight tonight about the Yazidis ?

Horror of horrors !

More information coming out now from the treatment these poor people have encountered.
Many fathers and men killed initially, the women and children were separated. The women were sent into slavery, the children lived with ISIS wives and families.
The children were taught to kill, taught how to use weapons and sent into the battles.
They don't know how many are still missing.
Then the poor kids, boys and girls told of how they were instructed to play football with decapitated heads !

These animals are not fit to be in civilised society, and the brainwashing still goes on, on Facebook and internet sites . These who see themselves as gods who can eradicate these animals from their deep beliefs are kidding themselves, but the 'do-gooders', yet again, will fail against such power and leave us all at the mercy of one God or another.
It is VERY hard to persuade those with religious convictions to denounce their beliefs. Those who don't have such convictions can not even have a clue about what they will be up against. I doubt they will ever break those animals , they may send them into hibernation for a while.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: British IS Fighters - 3rd Nov 2017 11:46pm
I really don't believe that religious belief has that much to do with it, its more like the attraction of power through gang-culture. Normally internal squabbles and power struggles break these thing apart before they get too powerful but the ruthlessness and a lot of luck seems to have helped ISIS.
Posted By: granny Re: British IS Fighters - 4th Nov 2017 1:44am
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I really don't believe that religious belief has that much to do with it, its more like the attraction of power through gang-culture. Normally internal squabbles and power struggles break these thing apart before they get too powerful but the ruthlessness and a lot of luck seems to have helped ISIS.


That DD, must be the general opinion . For those who have no roots in religion it must be very hard to appreciate, but these people will die for such inherent beliefs.

To listen to people talk about 'sky fairies' and joke about there not being Jesus or a God, even for someone like myself who is not fanatically religious and always open to the questions it brings, such remarks actually bring tears to my eyes through maybe desperation, frustration or even anger , I'm not sure, but the same remarks will never convince me otherwise and I believe followers of the twisted Islam who are fanatical will not relent. It's totally impossible.
I suppose it could be explained as you telling someone your mother never gave birth to you. Try and convince everyone else. It's that difficult.

Posted By: granny Re: British IS Fighters - 4th Nov 2017 2:12am

confused Maybe it should be the other way around ?

It's like everyone else telling you that your mother didn't give birth to you. Try to make them believe she did.

Anyway, you get the idea.
Posted By: venice Re: British IS Fighters - 4th Nov 2017 12:32pm
Might not be long granny til when that wont be an example you can use granny lol! https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/...s-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant
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