http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38025513

What do you mean ?

Buckingham Palace doesn't belong to the queen but I guess it is a nice little cosy pad for the elderly

Yeh, and Westminster Palace which houses all the Parliamentary twots is going to have £4 billion, spent on it.

Big Ben is to have £29 million spent on it. All taxpayers money.

As DD says, they belong to the country, not individuals and as written in the BBC link, a percentage of the profits which go to the treasury from the Crown Estates, will go towards Buck. Palace.

Funny how the Government can find a few coins down the back of the couch when it suits them:

If you’re not outraged about the Queen getting £369m for ‘essential’ repairs, you’re not looking hard enough

More than 120,000 children will be homeless in Britain this Christmas – an exponential rise on the previous year’s figures.

Over a million Brits were forced into using foodbanks last year, with this figure also expected to rise in 2016.

The NHS is in £2.5bn worth of debt – with hospital chiefs warning its capacity is stretched to breaking point.

Funding for schools is being cut by 7% at a rate of £20,000 per pupil over the span of their education.

The list of cuts to public services by the current Tory government is virtually endless, and their implications are being felt across the country with the harshest cuts falling on the most vulnerable. Added to the fact that wages have stagnated, and the cost of living rising exponentially, it’s little wonder that the British public voted to try and change the status quo by voting for Brexit.

And as if the public wasn’t already angry enough, and despite there apparently being no extra money for a collapsing NHS, the government have decided to announce that they have managed to find an extra £369m down the back of the sofa for ‘essential’ repairs to the Queen’s 775-room Buckingham Palace.

In terms of public perception, the timing of this announcement could not have been worse. I would hasten a bet that even a few staunch monarchists and self-avowed ‘patriots’ are having a hard time trying to dissect their emotional response enough to try and justify this prioritisation in their own heads.

The current Tory government have perpetually used the phrase ‘tough decisions’ to justify their cuts to public services and welfare. Yet, when it comes to providing yet more handouts to our already obscenely wealthy unelected head of state; or whether it’s money for wars, or tax cuts to massive corporations who already benefit from ridiculous tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share, the government rarely seems to find these decisions ‘tough’.

It’s not the powerless, the immigrants, or the ordinary working person who are causing this mess we’re in. It’s those who actually decide where our money is ‘best’ spent. That’s where our justifiable anger should be directed.

If you’re still having a hard time trying to justify prioritising a f**king building over the lives of over a million British citizens who are living in abject poverty, you probably need to take a long hard look and reassess your so called ‘patriotic’ British values.

Before anyone mis-interprets, 'homeless' in this instance does not mean 'on the streets' ,it means temporary accommodation, and for various reason.

On the other hand, we are pretty lucky here, the Brits continue to moan, moan, moan. Never thankful for what we do have in comparison to others.

Do you want any more to rock your conscience ?

Er, this thread is about the renovation of Buck Palace and the cost to tax-payers?

You said it.

The Queen generates over £1bn in tourism alone to the British economy every year, our royalty is recognised around the world, I doubt many people can even name another country's current royal head of house.

There are many other ways the British economy is boosted by our royal family as well.

Look at France, I used to be able to name numerous famous french buildings, I'd struggle to get up to 10 now - they have lost their identity and "greatness", is that what we want for Britain?

Britain has always been "bigger" than its actual size, we need to retain our World status or go under very fast. The Britishness of the Royal family is one of the things that keeps Britain "great" in the eyes of the world, keep them or just disappear into becoming another no-mark country (pun intended!).

Any idea on how much these multi-millionaires are willing to contribute to the renovation of their residence?

I suppose Buck House is a piece of our British History that probably raises an awful lot more than the money they will spend on it over the 10 years. I don't think the reason so many are in abject poverty and "homeless" is because they want to spend money on repairing Buck House. I wouldnt want to see any of Britains iconic buildings go to ruin. National Trust do a good job.

Represents about £12 for every tax payer. ---at that we should all be allowed one free visit on the Palace Tours--if you can afford to get to London.!

Don't know what I would spend the money on to help others--even £360m-doesn't go too far these days

oh I can hear it now "what about the potholes or the dog mess that should be fix/cleaned first" it's always me me me

if they don't fix it its "why did we let it get this far blar blar blar"

if we do fix it now its "what a waste of money"

No objection to fixing it. But the EXTREMELY wealthy people who live in it should contribute to the cost.

Palemoon, did you read the link you posted ? She is contributing to the costs.

It has already been stated, the Queen does not own the property, and neither have all other Royal Heads of Sate since it has been the Official Residence and Administration Headquarters since 1837. She has to live there, that's her job, even though she has her own home elsewhere.

If you rent a property, do you pay for the new roof ?

She pays taxes, she employs almost 200 staff of which have 200 bedrooms. and as an alternative you could have a Trump or Putin sitting in there if we didn't have a Queen, the building would still have to be maintained but Trump and Putin wouldn't be paying, because it wouldn't belong to them.

DO you think Obama should have paid for the upkeep of the Whitehouse ? Same difference. President currently has 1,869 employees !

Does that make sense, or is it still this idea that the Queen costs the tax payer too much money. I really feel that rather than listening to activist in such instances, it is far better to do ones own 'finding out' instead of being led like sheep by leaders of anti monarchy, anti government, anti religion, anti everything....apart from wanting to dictate to everyone else what they think we should all have, with the maximum amount of unrest and disruption included... commonly known as anarchists. ...

Look, this is all a matter of opinion. If you think that it's okay for your taxes to pay for renovating a palace that accommodates the very, very, rich and privileged, who live there for free, that's fine. More fool you. But don't try to convince me.

Well said Granny. Buckingham Palace is like the masthead of England and has to be maintained like any other historical building. What would people like to see a load of immigrants in there! Wonder what the outcry will be if she ever gets another Royal yacht, in my eyes she should still have the royal yacht Brittania and that should have been maintained too.

Yeah, well I'd prefer to see the £369 million spent on the NHS. But, as I say, it's only a matter of opinion.

I think it is a bit obscene to announce it at the present time when everybody is struggling, it reeks of elitism and re enforces the first in the queue and the us and them attitude that motivates this government, anarchy prevails when the wishes of the people are ignored, if they keep getting their noses rubbed in the dirt and they feel that there is no one that represents them, and when the alleged democracy that we have fails to represent them, a Monarch and a palace is all very nice, if we can afford it.

And Casper, if the place went on fire with hundreds of lives at risk, what would be said then ?

The Crown Estate is one of the largest property owners in the United Kingdom, producing £211 million for the Treasury in the financial year 2007–8.[7] and with holdings of £7.3 billion in 2011.[37] The Crown Estate is not the private property of the Monarch. It cannot be sold or owned by the Sovereign in a private capacity,[38] nor do any revenues, or debts, from the estate accrue to her. Instead the Crown Estate is owned by the Crown, a corporation representing the legal embodiment of the State. It is held in trust and governed by Act of Parliament, to which it makes an annual report.[37] Revenue from the Crown Estate is thought to be due to double in real terms in the period to 2020 with additional lease revenues deriving from the development of offshore wind farms within Britain's Renewable Energy Zone,[39] the rights of which were granted to the Crown Estate by the Energy Act 2004.

What would be said? I would imagine the report would read, property neglected and been allowed to fall into a state of bad repair and should have been upgraded and maintained years ago, and that the cost of so doing would have been considerably less at that time, we all have a responsibility granny even HRH or those that advise her, at the end of the day its all about how people perceive things, and they see those at the top being cosseted and protected while they struggle, its human nature, and I might add so very unfair.

£369 million over 10 years equates to £36.95 million per year.

Palemoon says the money should go to the NHS ??? NHS gets £107 billion per annum . £36.9 million would not even scratch the top of the needle and the NHS money comes out of a totally different budget anyway. The tax payers do pay into that little pot.

You say we should get rid of the Queen. She won't see the final renovations, I'm sure .

So what you are saying, is get rid of the Monarchy and put Mrs May in Bucks Palace, just like Mrs Merkel has her official residence in Germany. Have you seen Mr Putin's Palace ?

Mrs Merkel's official residence of the Federal State.I believe that was originally the home of Prince Augustus Ferdinand of Prussia, until the Nazi's got rid of the Monarchy. Who pays for that now ?Bucks Palace would still be paid for out of the Crown Estates, whoever got their foot in the door.

Who said this?

Casper: His words " A Monarchy and a Palace are all very good if we can afford it "

He doesn't think we can afford it.

We can't but they can. I'm sure that if the filthy rich who live there have a whip round each year they could easily managed to accumulate a mere £36.9 mill.

Who said this?

It was the inference in Rudebox first post, subsequent posts mixed with a bit of sarcasm and editorial licence in response to it.

Maybe should could tap Trump for a few million when this bigot given the red carpet treatment at the palace we are expected to maintain

You are a very naughty granny, where did I mention getting rid of the Queen?

Eh Up!!! Don't be blaming me for further 'discussions' in this thread.

Well Casper, I am impressed. I had no idea you were a Royalist. Well done that man. Eat your heart out Oliver Cromwell.

Think we could do with an amnesty on this topic--or it might be off with someones head.

You can sign petition here to ask Royals to pay for their own renovations if you so desire

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petiti...t=facebook-post-18_11_2016_breakingnews.

Its her place of work and we employ her, she doesn't even particularly like Buckingham Palace. Asking someone to pay for repairs to their employers property is ludicrous.

She has plenty of residences of her own: Sandringham House, Balmoral Castle and Craigowan Lodge being the main ones she uses.

Not nearly as ludicrous as making the public pay for it at a time when all Councils are having their budgets slashed, we desperately need more houses and the NHS is in dire financial straits.

Palemoon, you are not understanding. It is not coming out of the public taxes . It is coming out of the Crown Estates.

The Crown Estate is an independent real estate business established by Act of Parliament. Its surplus revenue is paid each year to the Treasury for the benefit of the nation's finances.

In this case, Bucks Palace belongs to the nation, and as explained above, comes under the 'nation's finances'.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/onl...uckingham-palace-repairs-the-queen-71930