Further to the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Party leader, after the Conservative party doing their best to get him elected (be careful what you wish for) Gove now states that the Labour party will pose a threat to democracy and to all families in the UK, a rabid bit of scaremongering if ever, rewind to the 70's David Sterling along with others aided and abetted by right wing of the Conservative party set up a covert group named GB75 they feared that the Wilson government of the time was too far left and a threat to national security and plans were put together for a coupe d' etat (so much for a threat to democracy) should the labour Party claim victory in the next election what will happen to democracy then? would someone seek to carry out another coup d' etat in the name of democracy ? it appears that only the Conservative are the ones that believe they run a true democracy.

At least we have 2 interesting characters in senior positions in politics. Farage and Corbyn (or 2 bikes Corbyn)
He gets elected by a landslide and several shadow cabinet members walk out and quit--wonderful unity. Parties within parties. Reading in press 24 things Corbyn believes I would think the Cons will be secretly laughing all the way to the next general election as he will either cause big split in Labour or be totally unelectable to the majority of the UK electorate.
At least I don't cringe as much as when Millipede spoke

A nation can be deconstructed in many ways, ours is well underway.
When and if the Labour Party ever get back in Government "will it matter!". The only thing Jeremy has done is bring on a temporary amnesia, of the last time labour shafted the workers of Britain.I would rather live reality to the best of my ability than a dream never to be.I am a socialist each and every day because I can afford to be in a capitalist wage slave society. Count your blessings and get on with life.

Good enough for me dusty

Angela Eagle has been mentioned in relation to a major position.

Labour will lose next 2 elections (Mail on Sunday)
Unions take control of party (Torygraph)
Bye Bye Labour - (Express)
And Jeremy Corban is Darth Vader (This is my outrageous headline)
Funny how Sunday Mirror leads with
"We don't have to be unequal. Poverty isn't envitable. It doesn't have to be unfair. Things can and will change"

I take what you say dusty, shafted we have been, however we are being well and truly done by the present crew, so the decision has to be made on who will shaft us the least, crumbs from a Labour table, or a fist from the master of the Conservative table, I don't subscribe to being thankful for my lot and getting on with it, being despondent doesn't change things, we have all got to try to make things better with what ever tiny bit of influence we can muster.

I see that the media are already laying into him. They can say what they like but we will not hear the cries usually aimed at politicians, such as 'same old, same old...'or 'you're all the same' or 'your only in it for yourself'. Jeremy Corbyn is a man of principle. He fights for what he believes in and not policies to appease or sound good. I do not agree with all he says but I do admire him.

Pale moon you say he fights what he believes in not policies to appease or sound good. To me that's exactly what he's doing. Telling the people what they want to hear and I'll get rid of austerity, do this , do that, all sounds good. Big question HOW? He gets called JC but he ain't no miracle worker! Think he's abit of a joke actually only my opinion, don't agree with everything conservative do but believe in them more than thisguy..

I don't see any reason to be bothered who gets in unless we get the promised EU referendum before the end of 2017 and make a decision to get out of the EU as fast as we can, as the end of 2017 is when EU takes total control of the Britain, all the political partys sold us off to the lowest bidder the EU cartel, what comes in after 2017 will be up to the EU, who will be pulling the politicians strings, Britain will be just a region of the EU seems France gets a few bits of the country dahn sarf, why do you think Prescott tried to get the NE to vote for being a small region and why do you think Osborne has chosen to give region status to Liverpool and Manchester, Osborne is to thick to think that one up, but regionalisation is part of the takeover of Britain by the EU.

Telling people what they want to hear, all politicians tell people what they want to hear cools, vote for us and we will do this that and the other, as to JC we don't know what his agenda is yet as he has only just taken office and not even put his team together, yet the media are telling us he is the devil incarnate, we are going to give the Falklands back, isis is coming to dinner along with every other terrorist, our country will be defenceless he will spend spend spend, this is the Tory run Press at its best churning out propaganda to discredit the only viable opposition party to them, they are already changing the boundries trying to guarantee their everlasting rule, before we make judgement lets see what his vision is, rather than what the Tory run press tell us it is.

He's already under fire for this claim:



http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/working_with_women

Is it unfair because he's only been in the role two days?

Exactly Gibbo, two days and he has been savaged, as I said earlier, the press the Tories, all seem to know what his agenda is before he has picked his people, JC the bogeyman, I think there is a real fear that this revolution in the process might actually lead to something, leaving them all wrong footed, so I think we can expect more revelations on a daily basis, the Tories are trolling around looking for more crap to discredit him, to his credit he already wants a change in the way PM's question time is run, no sarcastic attacks and none of the usual jeering and the hear here from the booze filled dross that fill the benches.

All I say is watch this space , don't expect him be around long. As I say just my opinion.

Must say, once Angela Eagle is on the dispatch box at question time, they'll all fall asleep listening to her droning voice.

Big tick in the box Cools.
It's also amazing how Andy Burnham has muscled in. He's played a clever game. Once he knew that he was out of the picture for leader, he started to make connotations in support of Corbyn's policies. I believe he is still hoping for the top job once Corbyn is de-throwned, and he's playing his cards accordingly.

Who can trust a turncoat ?

And he's proved them wrong by having over 50% women in the shadow cabinet.

I don't know whether its just a slow news period or if the BBC really do have it in for him.

As for Burnham, maybe its a case of keeping your friends close and enemies closer? I can't stand the man, he'll say whatever he thinks people want to hear.

It's amazing how many people can see into the future and know exactly what is going to happen, what Jeremy Corbyn's hidden agenda is, etc.

https://theyhavewidescreentvs.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/why-the-right-hate-jeremy-corbyn/

Jeremy Corbyn has been elected as the new leader of the Labour Party. His victory has been described as “sweeping” and already the hate from the right wing media and their Tory friends has started.

There are a raft of reasons why Jeremy is hated by the right and here is a look at the most common ones..

.He opposes austerity: Austerity is the mantra of the right and the Tories in Britain today and anyone who opposes and stands up against the lie that we need sweeping cuts to public services and welfare to make our economy stronger is labelled as a heathen. Jeremy sees that lie and so have Labour who have voted for a leader who’s strongly against austerity.

.He views the poor as human beings: The right wing media and the Tories see the poor has inhuman ... and dirt on their shoes. They and their rich mates see poor people as feckless scroungers who are a drain on “hard working taxpayers” and who need to be culled. Meanwhile Jeremy Corbin sees the poor as human beings and views them with decency, humanity and compassion. That just won’t do for right wingers and they castigate him for it.

.He is against benefit sanctions: Anyone who opposes the murderous, penalising and disgraceful human rights abuse of benefit sanctions is labelled as a wet, lefty, soft touch who wants unemployed, sick and disabled people to sit on their bottoms and “languish” on benefits drinking cans of Stella and watching the Jeremy Kyle Show. The Tories and their propagandists in the mainstream media have framed opposition to people having their benefits cut has “apologists” for laziness and idleness by the poor. Of course the reality is that those who oppose the disgusting sanctions regime are standing against people being subjected to starvation, poverty and death. But as the right wing and the Tories want all those things for the poor, the sick and the disabled those who oppose it get attacked from every angle.

He’s anti war: Oh the right wing media love a good war and they see dropping bombs on innocent people’s heads in other countries as the solution to much of the world’s problems. Jeremy will not cave in to those using the tragedy of the war in Syria and the deaths of men, women and children fleeing conflict and death to call for more death and destruction in impoverished parts of the world. For this he’s labelled and smeared by the media as apologists for ISIS and accused of supporting violent extremist regimes. Anyone who opposes the wars engaged with and created by our Western leaders are attacked as supporters and fans of terrorists. It’s slanderous and lies designed to distract people from the real architects of war and violence around the world… the rich.

I am not keen on all of his policies rude but would back him I believe he is a genuine man that wants a reasonable living for all not just the select few, however to fly in the face of capitalism wont make the journey an easy one, too many with to much to lose.

Likewise I don't agree with all his policies but I feel he realises that his ideals have to be negotiable and he appears to have no hidden agendas.

These days honesty is biasing my support more than politics, genuine empathy and morality also gains numerous brownie points.

He is also flying in the face of the media which will be an extremely rough ride and severely limit getting any of his messages out verbatim.

I think a lot of us have voted him in and are now apprehensive about what happens next but a lot of that apprehension is due to our inherent distrust in politicians from experience.

Having a massive mandate from his electorate is good but will only hold of the right wing labour party people so long, he's going to need unswerving support to survive the future.

I can't express how happy I am that we have a significant socialist party in the country again, even if it never gains control its presence is still a necessity.

Well put DD

Disgusted in how the media have blown up out of proportion Corbyn's not singing the national anthem (how many of us know the words past the 1st verse). Do they point out English team players who don't sing or just mime singing?
I usually think of "god save our team" then.
Also whether he wears a white or red poppy

Are these things to take our minds off more serious events happening that will affect us or the Tories running slightly scared of his policies)?

It's not the Tories who should be scared of his policies but the whole country. We're doomed anyway but it's just going to speed the cycle up a bit now. Not a socialist at 20, no heart. Still a socialist at 30, no brain. Rumour control has it that there are paid activists proclaiming on this site anyway so I'd take it all with a pound of salt.

Yep, the media really have it in for him. Farage must be relieved that they've got someone else to bully now.

What is it with them? Slow new period, love for New Labour (I'm mainly looking at the BBC here), or just hatred for the old left?

Singing the Red Flag and the media has it in for him? Stop the world I want to get off.

Being very cynical as i am
As casper hes mentioned...
In 1997 blair was the "breath of fresh air socialist" the people craved...look how that turned out!!
Hes like a grandad But weve 5 years of cameron left,alot of damage ahead.
Mps have no real power
Big business .banks ,run the country .they dont.

Yes, Blair was quite good at first, then he was clearly nobbled, did a favour for someone and that led to a perpetual blackmail to keep him under control, the start was over tobacco advertising. Eventually he just happily became one of the corrupt but as PM he was still a lot better than Brown who should never have been made PM.

I don't think Corbyn is quite so gullible/corruptible/nobblable.

Read all about it! Jeremy Corbyn had his leg over with Dianne Abbot 40 years ago (telegraph) Dianne Abbot attacked another woman minister while JC stood by and did nothing (she had a verbal disagreement if you read the article) still lets not let the truth stand in the way of a good story eh.

Pity the press hasn't something more important to print. Like the threat of Isis via the immigration crisis.

Love it buddy, the last time she said that it was poor Di .

I starting to think that the country has been so indoctrinated into a dictatorial state that they have forgotten what democracy is.

Corbyn believes in democracy and fairness, he has put his party's wishes ahead of his own beliefs and yet is being accused of being weak - I see it as being strong.

It is amazing the amount of campaigning that is going against him, a lot of scared people who know that Corbyn has a message that can be sold and is probably what the country needs.

I'm a Labour voter myself but JC would do well to note what finished Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock. The anti-Trident / anti-defence thing is a huge vote loser.

The livelihoods of too many people rely on defence / weapons / making things to kill people. Put this at risk and you're politically knackered. Far more working class people than we would ever like to imagine vote Conservative and they don't go out on the streets and make a noise about themselves.

Just think about it. That's all those who work in the weapons trade, contractors, suppliers, logistics, the armed forces, and their families. That's enough people to sway the outcome of an election. Like them or not, the working class Tories get out and vote and that is what ultimately matters.

His ideal is no Trident but he backed down on this weeks ago - its just the newspapers perpetuating his ideals instead of his policies - on which he is still democratically flexible.

He is not anti-defence, he is anti-offence, he firmly believes we should had a defence system to fully protect our country, he does not believe we should have a system designed to attack other countries.

Trident is an American system and we pour money into America for it, some of that money would go more to British defence companies if we ditched Trident. America sets the price of Trident then tells us its compulsory for us to have it????

NATO was formed as a co-operative defence system in the cold war period to cover the Atlantic area, when the cold war ended NATO realised it could be disbanded but instead it took on an offensive World roll.

Corbyn has got a problem that he wants Labour to be a strong party representative of those that voted him in - of course the right-wing Blairites in suits are going to continually undermine him - we couldn't possibly have a left-wing Labour party could we!!!