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Posted By: cathie why don't we have this in Britain?? - 18th Apr 2013 1:27pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-convicted-rapists-child-molesters.html

The Florida county where police post 'sexual predator' road signs outside homes of convicted rapists and child molesters

One Florida county is taking its duty to notify neighbors about sex offenders living in the community to the next level and posting red road side outside the homes of rapists and child molesters.

The sheriff of Bradford County, Florida, decided the reflective signs, which have each offender's name, should be planted on the roadways outside the houses of convicted sexual predators to ward off children and notify parents about potentially-dangerous convicts in the area.

'If it prevents one more victim in my community, I've done my job as sheriff,' Sheriff Gordon Smith told First Coast News.

The sheriff's office had jail inmates place the signs on public property outside the houses of convicted sexual predators

So far, the sheriff's office has made 18 signs at a cost of $10 apiece.

Captain Brad Smith, the chief of operations for the sheriff's office, told VICE magazine that the state of Florida mandates that police departments keep citizens informed about the sex offenders in the community.

The department already sends out notifications on Facebook and sends officers to warn neighbors door-to-door when a sexual predator moves in.

However, if a new family comes to a community after the notifications are sent out, Capt Smith says, they might not know a sex offender is living next door.

The signs costs $10 each and are customized with the name of the sex offender

VICE magazine suggested that the road signs could result in neighbors harassing sex offenders in the county.

'We don't expect that to happen, and if it does, we will do everything in our power to protect the person's rights,' Capt Smith said.

The signs are only posted for sexual predators - the worst sex offenders who have been convicted of raping a child or an adult.

John Goodman, a convicted sexual predator, told First Coast News that he doesn't have a problem with the signs.

'I've done learned my lesson. I don't do things like that anymore,' he said.
Posted By: davew3 Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 18th Apr 2013 4:59pm
Peoples uman rites get in the way in this god forsaken country.
Posted By: Elizabeth Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 19th Apr 2013 3:39am
I have the ability to check sex offenders on a website here and know of a few who live in my neighbourhood, and although I believe in theory that it's good to know who they are, there are some doubts I have and I'll try to explain why.
Anyone who has been convicted here WILL end up on the sex offenders registry, even if their crime was not what I would consider threatening for example :- Let's say an 18 year old boy goes out with a girl who is one day off turning 18. They have consentual sex whilst she is still by the law in USA considered a minor. Her parents find out and sue the boy for rape of a minor. He then ends up with a conviction and will be on the list forever. This in my mind is not fair, but it's still considered a sex offence.
Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category.
Posted By: guitarlad Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 19th Apr 2013 8:59am
@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.
Posted By: Rambo Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 19th Apr 2013 10:32pm
Originally Posted by guitarlad
@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.

Spoken like someone who knows an 'alleged' sex offender and is trying to excuse them! No smoke without fire in my opinion. (Notice the 'in my opinion' part!)
Posted By: Elizabeth Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 19th Apr 2013 10:53pm
Guitarlad I should have said all CONVICTED and PROVEN GUILTY pedo's and child molesters should be on the list.
Posted By: McFlurry Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 8:04am
A sign outside someone's house would I'd have thought be more likely to invite problems, seems a bit inflammatory to me.

'Them crazy ass yanks'
Posted By: Candlyfloss Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 8:42am
Originally Posted by Elizabeth
Guitarlad I should have said all CONVICTED and PROVEN GUILTY pedo's and child molesters should be on the list.
Pedos and child molesters should be listed i do agree Elizabeth.What about there photo.do they show that on the list?






Posted By: eddtheduck Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 12:42pm
if they're convicted and proven guilty won't they be in jail? so the police put the sign outside the house, where he lived with wife and 3 kids one 18yo one 10 and one 7, now the 10 and 7yo go into care, yet the mum and 18yo stay at the house, someone sees the sign and the 18yo outside the house and tells his mate who thinking the 18yo must by the sicko beat the guy up and leave him for dead, then ask if it's a good thing.
Posted By: Willo_ Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 12:55pm
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
Posted By: eddtheduck Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 3:39pm
Originally Posted by BurgerChips
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
BurgerChips how reliable is that list I only ask bud as I can't see the whole city of London only having 1 pedo think
Posted By: missmoneypenny Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 6:20pm
Originally Posted by guitarlad
@ Elizabeth,Yes, pedo's, child molesters and the like should be on the list, however I believe it's wrong to lump ALL alleged sex offenders in the same category. Its got to be proven if the offender has actualy molested or raped,if he is not guilty and still charged, A innocent man would have to live with this all his life and lose his job,breakup of marriage.his whole life falls apart.Most cases are allegations of rape or molesting when it never happened in the first place.Reason is that the female is attention seeking,drunk,or setting the guy up.As for pedos,The police can take there pc away and check it for any child porn etc,Most pedos you will find have alot of interest in kids stuff like catoons,drawings etc.And as the saying goes innocent till proven guilty.
I can see your point.Look at Jimmy saville he got away with so much.The shit hit the fan when he was dead and burried.As for pedos the police have the right to come and take your PC.As for allegations of rape or molesting well thats up to the victim to take it further .The pedo list is a really good idea.It is scary world isn it.
Posted By: mrhanky Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 20th Apr 2013 7:41pm
sadly lists are a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has long gone.
Posted By: missmoneypenny Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 21st Apr 2013 2:38pm
Originally Posted by mrhanky
sadly lists are a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has long gone.
Or just sweep it under the carpet as the saying goes.
Posted By: venice Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 21st Apr 2013 4:11pm
Originally Posted by eddtheduck
Originally Posted by BurgerChips
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
BurgerChips how reliable is that list I only ask bud as I can't see the whole city of London only having 1 pedo think


Where do you get '1' from ? London is showing as 711 sex offences if Im seeing it correctly.
Actually, I have to say Im quite amazed to see that this info is freely available . I thought it would only be available via authorized persons to a person who had a good reason for needing to know. Some of these have addresses with a specific road given. One of the addresses in wirral, gives a road where theres a very small number of houses,so not hard with a bit of research to pin the actual one down . Bit terrifying if you happened to move into such a property in later years and some earlier 'victim' decided to hunt their attacker down to take revenge. As we all know, revenge is best served cold.

edit - yeah, just looked , and Sarahs law implies that that is the case so Im puzzled.
Posted By: eddtheduck Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 21st Apr 2013 5:06pm
here you go bud look at city of london smile

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Posted By: venice Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 21st Apr 2013 5:24pm
So it does - must be a misprint on that particular panel . thumbsdown
Posted By: mrhanky Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 21st Apr 2013 6:19pm
Originally Posted by missmoneypenny
Originally Posted by mrhanky
sadly lists are a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has long gone.
Or just sweep it under the carpet as the saying goes.


it doesn't get swept under the carpet, the media and the police see to that wink



Originally Posted by venice
Originally Posted by eddtheduck
Originally Posted by BurgerChips
there is already a database of uk and ireland peados here http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/
BurgerChips how reliable is that list I only ask bud as I can't see the whole city of London only having 1 pedo think


Where do you get '1' from ? London is showing as 711 sex offences if Im seeing it correctly.
Actually, I have to say Im quite amazed to see that this info is freely available . I thought it would only be available via authorized persons to a person who had a good reason for needing to know. Some of these have addresses with a specific road given. One of the addresses in wirral, gives a road where theres a very small number of houses,so not hard with a bit of research to pin the actual one down . Bit terrifying if you happened to move into such a property in later years and some earlier 'victim' decided to hunt their attacker down to take revenge. As we all know, revenge is best served cold.

edit - yeah, just looked , and Sarahs law implies that that is the case so Im puzzled.


the information is freely available as it's just copied and pasted from press reports.

sarahs law only applies if you think one of your children might be in contact with a known abuser, aimed at a parent to check about a new partner mainly, you can't phone the police and ask if the bloke three doors away is a convicted nonce.

i also doubt many, if any victims would mistake someone for their abuser just because that person lived in the house they were abused in.
Posted By: Elizabeth Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 22nd Apr 2013 2:01am
Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
Originally Posted by Elizabeth
Guitarlad I should have said all CONVICTED and PROVEN GUILTY pedo's and child molesters should be on the list.
Pedos and child molesters should be listed i do agree Elizabeth.What about there photo.do they show that on the list?

Yes they do have a photo of them along with the conviction. Very few of them say they were involved with children. I think a lot of them are flashers or maybe were charged with "deviant sexual acts" whatever that might be!





Posted By: Elizabeth Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 22nd Apr 2013 2:07am
Originally Posted by eddtheduck
if they're convicted and proven guilty won't they be in jail?


They go on the sex offenders registry once they're out of jail. There's no sign outside the house, they're listed on a website for those who want to check if they live near an offender.
The whole thing came into being when a young girl was killed by a sex offender living in her neighbourhood. Her parents petioned to have a law where the county must disclose where the sex offenders live once they've done time in jail.
Posted By: DeanoBirko Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 23rd Apr 2013 10:22am
Im shocked and disgusted at some of those merseyside stories. Its so close to home. I cant believe some of the sick fucks on there.
Posted By: CVCVCV Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 24th Apr 2013 1:53pm
This list appears to reflect Police Forces, not cities.
The "City of London" is about 1 square mile in size and is the banking / financial centre only. It has its own Police force.
The "Metropolitan Police" would cover the rest of London (and Greater London)...
It'd be like comparing Wall St. to the whole of New York!
Posted By: Gibbo Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 25th Apr 2013 1:02pm
There have been people put on the sex offenders register for peeing in public.
Posted By: CVCVCV Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 25th Apr 2013 1:56pm
Originally Posted by Gibbo
There have been people put on the sex offenders register for peeing in public.
if they were displaying their genitals inappropriately, then there is something wrong with this? Hmmmm...
(I mean vs. "flashers" of course)
Posted By: dave2745 Re: why don't we have this in Britain?? - 25th Apr 2013 2:18pm
I can understand where Gibbo is coming from. Many years ago (back in the mid-70s in fact), my brother and his mate were out drinking one night. Anyhow, long story short, they were walking home around 11.30 p.m. when my brother realized he was bursting for a pee. It was pitch black and no one else was around so he decided to take a leak in a nearby shop doorway. Just then a police car happened along busted and my brother was arrested. I can still remember him panicking it would be in the Birkenhead News and it would have him down as "exposing himself" and that people would get the wrong idea and think he was some kind of "flasher". It was such a relief for him (no pun intended) when the paper reported it as "Man Caught Urinating Contrary To Public Convenience" and he was subsequently fined 25 quid. blush
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