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Posted By: chriskay Frank Field - 29th Jun 2015 5:36pm
I may not agree with his politics but the man has style. He bet £50 at 5/1 on a Tory overall majority in the election. With the £250 he won, he took his whole election team for a meal.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Frank Field - 29th Jun 2015 5:48pm
I guess you can't accuse him of not being a realist. He's one of the honest guys.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 29th Jun 2015 6:53pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
He's one of the honest guys.


I've always thought that.
Posted By: Dilly Re: Frank Field - 29th Jun 2015 7:18pm
Is there such an animal as an honest politician ?
Posted By: ludwigvan Re: Frank Field - 29th Jun 2015 7:45pm
Originally Posted by Dilly
Is there such an animal as an honest politician ?
There are as many honest politicians as there are virgin prostitutes.
Posted By: hagar Re: Frank Field - 30th Jun 2015 8:18pm
in the city could not be this be seen as insider trading? However i do have do have a modicum of respect for the chap|
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 2nd Jul 2015 9:11pm
Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
He's one of the honest guys.


I've always thought that.
Can it be honest to campaign for oneself as a labour politician and the gamble on the party winning? gross deceit.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 2nd Jul 2015 9:57pm
Originally Posted by Bennie


Can it be honest to campaign for oneself as a labour politician and the gamble on the party winning? gross deceit.


Nothing deceitful about it. He campaigned for his own re-election as a Labour politician but was astute enough to see which way the wind was blowing and made some money from a bookmaker.
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 2nd Jul 2015 11:15pm
Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by Bennie


Can it be honest to campaign for oneself as a labour politician and the gamble on the party winning? gross deceit.


Nothing deceitful about it. He campaigned for his own re-election as a Labour politician but was astute enough to see which way the w
ind was blowing and made some money from a bookmaker.
How can an honest man have a foot in both camps ? he was a tory to begin with and is a closet tory now.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 7:22am
If you can't see the difference between honesty and placing a bet, I have nothing more to say to you.
Oh, I didn't know he'd ever been a Tory.
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 9:18am
Frank Field has also worked with the Tories on several matters.

I don't see any conflict of interests, just a man with morals and decency to put other people before party.

But I guess some people aren't intelligent enough to see that. Or they belong to the "my dad voted labour, my granddad voted labour so I will" consensus.
Posted By: dustymclean Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 10:18am
Frank Field has done Birkenhead proud, never seen it looking so good.We should twin it with somewhere really nice.Like ---.
He reminds me of a TV programme, the guy went to work immaculately dressed and done an excellent job in the office while his house was a tip.
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 9:15pm
Originally Posted by chriskay
If you can't see the difference between honesty and placing a bet, I have nothing more to say to you.
Oh, I didn't know he'd ever been a Tory.
Frank Field was a tory until he saw a safe labour seat in Birkenhead so he crossed the floor but didn't really change his politics so it's obvious where his loyalty( if any) lies.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 9:17pm
withthat #TeamBennie
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Frank Field - 3rd Jul 2015 9:52pm
Originally Posted by Bennie
Originally Posted by chriskay
If you can't see the difference between honesty and placing a bet, I have nothing more to say to you.
Oh, I didn't know he'd ever been a Tory.
Frank Field was a tory until he saw a safe labour seat in Birkenhead so he crossed the floor but didn't really change his politics so it's obvious where his loyalty( if any) lies.


Do you really think it is that easy to be appointed as a candidate in a political safe seat? You don't just appoint yourself and safe seats were often reserved for party officials that are most needed.

He was a member of the Labour party for about 15 years before he became a candidate in Birkenhead!
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 4th Jul 2015 8:10pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by Bennie
Originally Posted by chriskay
If you can't see the difference between honesty and placing a bet, I have nothing more to say to you.
Oh, I didn't know he'd ever been a Tory.
Frank Field was a tory until he saw a safe labour seat in Birkenhead so he crossed the floor but didn't really change his politics so it's obvious where his loyalty( if any) lies.


Do you really think it is that easy to be appointed as a candidate in a political safe seat? You don't just appoint yourself and safe seats were often reserved for party officials that are most needed.

He was a member of the Labour party for about 15 years before he became a candidate in Birkenhead!
I've really no idea if he was a labour party member for 15 years but I'll check it out and if you're right, you're right. That wouldn't make him anything but duplititous though . I do know quite a lot about the way the party does it's business. By the way do you know if Frank had a small side bet on U.K.I.P. (just in case)
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 4th Jul 2015 8:30pm
Hi, spelling mistake in last post, should be duplicitous. Y.O.L.O.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 4th Jul 2015 9:45pm
Originally Posted by Bennie
Hi, spelling mistake in last post, should be duplicitous. Y.O.L.O.


You missed another; see if you can spot it. wink

Oh, I hope you're deriving some benefit from banging your head against the wall.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Frank Field - 4th Jul 2015 11:41pm
Originally Posted by Bennie
I've really no idea if he was a labour party member for 15 years but I'll check it out and if you're right, you're right.


He was a Labour Councillor for Hounslow in 1964 and became Birkenhead MP in 1979, so he would probably have been a member of Labour for more than 15 years before coming an MP.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 11:41am
Having checked his Wikipedia entry, it appears that he has been a member of the Conservative party (he resigned over the party's attitude to apartheid in S.A.). Since he became a Labour councillor at the age of 22, we may perhaps put it down to youthful folly.
Posted By: Bennie Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 3:50pm
Poacher turned gamekeeper? None of what you say alters the fact that the man is a hypocrite, a cad and a bounder and I won't sully my keyboard with his name again. Y.O.L.O.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 7:22pm
Originally Posted by Bennie
Poacher turned gamekeeper? None of what you say alters the fact that the man is a hypocrite, a cad and a bounder and I won't sully my keyboard with his name again. Y.O.L.O.
withthat
Posted By: Softy_Southerner Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 7:32pm
I'd be interested to hear which politician has done more for Birkenhead than FF?
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 7:46pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Originally Posted by Bennie
Poacher turned gamekeeper? None of what you say alters the fact that the man is a hypocrite, a cad and a bounder and I won't sully my keyboard with his name again. Y.O.L.O.
withthat


I think that you and Bennie would be happier in North Korea. Perhaps you'd like me to find you flights to Pyongyang. grin
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 8:16pm
hand Not interested in your views.
Posted By: chriskay Re: Frank Field - 5th Jul 2015 8:40pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
hand Not interested in your views.


At least I have my own views: all you seem to be able to do is copy & paste and use withthat
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Frank Field - 6th Jul 2015 3:12pm
I've been a member of five different political parties. "Labour" is only the name of a party whose ethics and politics vary with time and people, at times the Labour party have been more right wing than the Conservatives.

Members being pedantic supporter of the Labour party is how the party managed to completely lose its way. You can't give politicians a free pass, many are not trustworthy enough.

I praise any politician who can change their mind politically - and abhor those that change sides merely for employment. There is nothing turncoat about changing your political allegiance for political reasons.

I disagree with the party political system, it enables complete misrepresentation of the electorate and ethics, Frank's career has shown how he puts the country before political parties as indeed every politician should be allowed to do.
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Frank Field - 7th Jul 2015 8:54am
Well written DD.
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