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Posted By: Flash02 Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:10pm
Its not been in the Echo or local rags but has anyone heard owt bout two local coppers one being an inspector being charged with a type of cprruption charge for being involved with the criminals in a recent high profile drug conspiracy job?
Posted By: DJ_Karl_David Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:27pm
no but there is a very similar story on the news regarding 2 counillers in bury being charged for coruption.

Also couple of merseyside police officers arrested over violence at the derby
Posted By: mrhanky Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:30pm
sounds similar something i've read about in leeds.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:46pm
Ridiculous.
Posted By: mb2496 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:56pm
I thought this thread was called "Local News", not "Non-Evidence Based Gossip"
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:56pm
Hi Simonas ,nothing new there then perk`s of the job .
Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 10:57pm
smack

Originally Posted by gypsyjune
Hi Simonas ,nothing new there then perk`s of the job .


I couldn't just leave my reply as smack as my BP was rising. Saying something like that is like saying because of Harold Shipman, all GP's are murderers or because one Teacher has been jailed for being a paedophile, all Teachers are paedophiles.

FFS smack

Posted By: Wiggi77 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:05pm
DCI mike lawlor??
Or might be one of these upstanding police officers

http://www.fmotl.co.uk/CorruptPoliceV15.pdf
Posted By: mrhanky Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:23pm
will see if i can find latest bit that i was reading, but this is the one i was thinking of... CLICKY CLICK
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:24pm
Hi Wench ,that`s not what i said and not what i meant ,i know in your career you had close contacts with police ect and you will want to protect them ,i understand that ,but it is true and some of them are corrupt ,wether we like it or not ,sorry it`s just my opinion
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:27pm
Hi Wiggi thanks for posting that, and the same goes to Mr Hanky thank you also ,Wench that`s all i was saying ,it`s a fact of life just my opinion tho June
Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:37pm
It's nothing to do with wanting to protect them, but it was a daft comment. It's like saying free drugs is a "perk of the job" working in A&E or theatres. The key is in one word you used to reply - SOME!

Going by the list provided about the charges against police - 202 (imsmc) out of what, approx 17,000 (give or take) Police officers is small fry.

I know of a few Police who were in the Armed Forces before they joined and they had records for D&D, S5 POA etc from when they were wet behind the ears SUT's. It doesn't make them corrupt, it makes them human.

I'd be the first to say that if one is convicted of coruption then he/she should lose his/her job, pension etc. BUT, I will also be the first to defend them when a sweeping statement is made that all are somehow corrupt.

It's one of those "media" things that really pisses me off - if it's a postman (for example) then his occupation is not mentioned, but when it comes to Police, Doctors etc, it's always the job that's put before the person. A bit like when you hear "a youth has been stabbed" when they're white and "a black youth has been stabbed" when they're black. The colour of their skin is immaterial - a youth is a youth. Why tag them because of their colour.

O/T I know, but it sort of explains what I mean.

As an add on: Looking at some on that list, some are the same case repeated, some are not Police Officers & some were found not guilty/NFA'd. "Misconduct" can be anything from "stealing" property from the office (pens etc), using the station phone for personal use, using the station computer to go on farcebook/twitter/other social networking sites & sites nothing to do with work. More will no doubt be printed by the press in the next year as PSD are all over officers like a cheap suit these days for anything they can get them on, thanks to Theresa "Cruella" May.
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:56pm
Wench ,i don`t think it was a daft comment at all ,not calling all police officer`s or doctor`s or teacher`s or any one else proffesional or not , you may very well of had your experience`s in life and i have had mine ,and i still say (perk`s of the job) that`s my opinion thanks June
Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 31st Jan 2012 11:59pm
And I'll still say daft comment. It's not a perk of the job at all. There are no perks to the job thanks to the government. By still saying "perk of the job", you are effectively calling all corrupt, as a perk of any job is something open to all.

It'd be a worse country without the police!!

I'm stepping away from the thread now because my BP is through the fookin roof!!

seeyu *wanders off mumbling "perks of the job - stupid fookin comment in my opinion"*
Posted By: davaw1 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 12:01am
Here's a news report of local police being charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-16809782
Posted By: ex0__ Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 12:03am
You really shouldn't let comments on a forum affect you in such a way. oshocked
Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 12:05am
Originally Posted by davaw1
Here's a news report of local police being charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-16809782

That just proves my point somad

What are the occupations of the others charged (if they work) over the fight!?! No point putting it really as it doesn't sell papers does it somad

Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 12:08am
Originally Posted by ex0__
You really shouldn't let comments on a forum affect you in such a way. oshocked

I know mate, but I can't help it sometimes. You're over your limit on PM's wink
Posted By: Oddone Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 12:41am
Nothing but Big Love Spuds of Respect to Wench for the above! smile
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 10:45am
Thanks Davaw ,that`s all i was trying to say no disrespect to any one ,June
Posted By: Littlebear Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 3:44pm
Originally Posted by Wench
I couldn't just leave my reply as smack as my BP was rising. Saying something like that is like saying because of Harold Shipman, all GP's are murderers or because one Teacher has been jailed for being a paedophile, all Teachers are paedophiles.


That's an unfair comparison and not to cause you offence, a poor statement to make to back up an argument, considering being a GP and being a PC are two completely different disciplines.

No-one in such a position should come close to being even tempted to take advantage. History has proven that one bad apple spoils the lot - are the police less trustworthy than politicians? Not a good image.
If you don't agree, check current world politics and history from 60's to present.
Posted By: Flash02 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 4:16pm
Originally Posted by davaw1
Here's a news report of local police being charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-16809782


heard about that one today, no this ones a different one a wallasey inspector I believe involved in a recent big drugs job. Im just surprised that nothings been reported yet
Posted By: Flash02 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 4:18pm
Originally Posted by mb2496
I thought this thread was called "Local News", not "Non-Evidence Based Gossip"


its not non evidence based due to the job I do I queried on this site as a lot of people seem to know stuff on here and Im surprised it didnt make local news!!
Posted By: smithersjones Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 5:38pm
I too am aware of a Wallasey inspector suspended over a big case, but don't know the details still under investigation I assume
Posted By: torryman Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 6:01pm
Originally Posted by Wench
And I'll still say daft comment. It's not a perk of the job at all. There are no perks to the job thanks to the government. By still saying "perk of the job", you are effectively calling all corrupt, as a perk of any job is something open to all.

It'd be a worse fookin country without the police!!

I'm stepping away from the thread now because my BP is through the fookin roof!!

seeyu *wanders off mumbling "perks of the job - stupid fookin comment in my opinion"*
Can Wiki members not express themselves without lowering the tone (and dignity) of this brilliant site with poorly disguised swearwords
Posted By: Silverback Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 6:23pm
Originally Posted by torryman
Originally Posted by Wench
And I'll still say daft comment. It's not a perk of the job at all. There are no perks to the job thanks to the government. By still saying "perk of the job", you are effectively calling all corrupt, as a perk of any job is something open to all.

It'd be a worse fookin country without the police!!

I'm stepping away from the thread now because my BP is through the fookin roof!!

seeyu *wanders off mumbling "perks of the job - stupid fookin comment in my opinion"*
Can Wiki members not express themselves without lowering the tone (and dignity) of this brilliant site with poorly disguised swearwords


How can a moderator be lowering the tone, or dignity, of the site down, they enforce the levels for the rest of us to follow.


Posted By: torryman Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 6:48pm
It shouldn't matter if he/she are a moderator...swearing only spoils the site...the history and local news reports on this site have got me totally hooked, but the unnecessary swearing just spoils a good information source...if the swearing was a direct quote in a story that's different.
Posted By: mb2496 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 8:21pm
Originally Posted by simonas
Originally Posted by mb2496
I thought this thread was called "Local News", not "Non-Evidence Based Gossip"


its not non evidence based due to the job I do I queried on this site as a lot of people seem to know stuff on here and Im surprised it didnt make local news!!


So where is the evidence then? It's pure gossip backed up by absolutely nothing. If it was real news, it would be in 'the news'. Nothing has been reported because there is nothing to report. If there is something to these ridiculous rumours, it will be reported through official channels at the relevant time. If there is something to the rumours then I don't feel this is the place for them.

Out of interest, and seeing as you brought the topic up, what job do you do where this kind of drivel may be relevant?
Posted By: Wench Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 10:33pm
O/T but I have reported myself and asked Mark to remove the f'in to keep everybody happy smile If in the future, anyone is offended by any posting or language used in a post, please do not hesitate to use the "Notify" button and explain your reason for notifying. It doesn't matter if it's a "normal" member or a Moderator wink

I stand by my examples though. No offence taken at all LB smile A GP and a Police Officer are both occupations based on trust, so not completely different IMO, but we can agree to disagree wink One bad apple does indeed "spoil the lot" but it still doesn't mean that all are bad or that the option of corruption is a "perk of the job".

There are a fair few on here, and the ones that I know are most certainly NOT bad apples. A few people on here know 1 or 2 of them and would, I'm 99.9% certain, agree.
Posted By: Flash02 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 1st Feb 2012 11:54pm
Originally Posted by mb2496
Originally Posted by simonas
Originally Posted by mb2496
I thought this thread was called "Local News", not "Non-Evidence Based Gossip"


its not non evidence based due to the job I do I queried on this site as a lot of people seem to know stuff on here and Im surprised it didnt make local news!!


So where is the evidence then? It's pure gossip backed up by absolutely nothing. If it was real news, it would be in 'the news'. Nothing has been reported because there is nothing to report. If there is something to these ridiculous rumours, it will be reported through official channels at the relevant time. If there is something to the rumours then I don't feel this is the place for them.

Out of interest, and seeing as you brought the topic up, what job do you do where this kind of drivel may be relevant?


thats my whole point it isnt in the news which has surprised me and you would have to be very naive to believe that it doesnt exist if not in the news.
Posted By: smithersjones Re: Coppers charged corruption - 5th Mar 2012 9:28pm
What about this then perhaps you might be willing to believe people who know more than you think in future?

http://www.wirralnews.co.uk/wirral-...rother-for-taxi-licence-100252-30460604/

This is the case a few of us were referring to
Posted By: shazza51 Re: Coppers charged corruption - 9th Mar 2012 11:29pm
It was reported in the echo on page 7 on monday 5th march! He was named as Inspector Phil Leech from Wallasey police station!
Posted By: smithersjones Re: Coppers charged corruption - 10th Mar 2012 6:21pm
Is this the same person who used to play in the third team at new brighton cricket club?
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