Just seen this in the Wirral News..
Just shows the lack of concern and judgement involved in the NHS when they employ a male Doctor struck off for posing as a teenage girl on the internet so that he could swap explicit emails and photos with teenage girls.. he's now been put in charge of reshaping Merseyside's NHS.
WTF
http://www.wirralnews.co.uk/wirral-...gets-top-mersey-nhs-job-100252-29477872/
If he's done the time for the crime, and he can somehow help the NHS though, which no doubt he will as he's been assigned to the job ... ?
You had CEO's of banks who swindled 3/4 trillion dollars who got less punishment.
I wouldn't say:
The review is looking at reducing the amount of hospitals that can perform vascular surgery in the region.
is a top job, he's just doing the job of a consultant. Also, seeing as he's a real piece of work anyway, he seems fit for the job.
Paying money for a crew of researchers to reduce services? Duhhh.
Surely he loses all right to a decent life, I mean not once but 26 times, it's a disgrace that he can get a job in the NHS.
Surely he loses all right to a decent life
Ah c'mon, it's not like he hurt anyone. Ban him from using machines attached to the internet and problem solved.
As a father to a teenage girl and 2 younger girls, if I found out a perv was posing as a teenage girl and talking in a sexual nature to them then in my eyes he loses the right to a decent life. Just because he never met these girls should not make light of the crime and the sexual nature of it, these girls will have to live with this forever and should never have been exposed to conversations of the type. In my eyes he is a perv and they lose rights in my opinion.
He should of gone on to the pedo register cos if he hadn't of been caught he could of taken it that step further! I would not have him round my daughters and he shouldnt have a job in the nhs at all its a disgrace! Its ok people saying he's done his time for the crime how many of these pedo's offend again and again it is very wrong!
You're all making theoretic claims which have no grounds in this.
Yes, if he had slept with 12 year old girls, which he didn't, he's just a dirty pervert with that tag for the rest of his life, which is probably worse than a murderer in today's society.
If he's been punished for pretending to be a girl, then why should he be ostracised completely? He's obviously good at his job and if it's benefiting the country on a larger scale? Nobody had been hurt by his actions, I doubt the girls in this matter are bothered in the slightest.
You can't just stick anyone on a paedophile register (Sex Offender's Register).
I doubt the girls in this matter are bothered in the slightest.
It annoys me that people seem to think that a teenager would remember/care about this even a week after it happened. It's totally ridiculous. It's as if parents don't know that teenagers take pics of themselves without persuasion. o.O
This is typical of the NHS - cock up and you get a top job.
I doubt the girls in this matter are bothered in the slightest.
It annoys me that people seem to think that a teenager would remember/care about this even a week after it happened. It's totally ridiculous. It's as if parents don't know that teenagers take pics of themselves without persuasion. o.O
Littlebear: The invisible effects may not be shown, in the mind this could effect they way they behave later in life.
Exo: When a grown man or woman has sexual conversations with a minor I just dont see how anyone can say the minor wouldn't care, this male was one step from trying to meet these girls or another one if you look at how the experts say they normally go down the road. He obviously is curious about sexual encounters with young girls and just because he hasn't actually touched a young girl he was certainlly on the road to grooming.
this male was one step from trying to meet these girls
Really? Does it say that somewhere in the article or are you assuming? He must have been really shit at what he was trying to do if he failed to meet the 25 girls the article mentions. Perhaps he didn't intend to meet anyone and was just after pics? Though that doesn't make much sense either, if he knew how to pass himself off as a young girl he must have known where to find pics of girls anyway. Maybe it was a conquest type of thing. Not that it matters, my point is there's nothing that points towards him trying or wanting to meet any of the girls he talked to.
The rest of your post just tells me you're out of touch with what you're trying to talk about. At 13 I was regularly cybering online with women that were undoubtedly older than me. It's stupidity to think that if that was going on a dozen years ago it hasn't grown in popularity since then with the technological advances we have today (laptops with cameras, mobiles with cameras..). It was just something to do in the downtime, pretty sure it didn't mentally damage me. Know why? Cause everyone else did it to. Gasp, secret revealed!
this male was one step from trying to meet these girls
Really? Does it say that somewhere in the article or are you assuming? He must have been really shit at what he was trying to do if he failed to meet the 25 girls the article mentions. Perhaps he didn't intend to meet anyone and was just after pics? Though that doesn't make much sense either, if he knew how to pass himself off as a young girl he must have known where to find pics of girls anyway. Maybe it was a conquest type of thing. Not that it matters, my point is there's nothing that points towards him trying or wanting to meet any of the girls he talked to.
The rest of your post just tells me you're out of touch with what you're trying to talk about. At 13 I was regularly cybering online with women that were undoubtedly older than me. It's stupidity to think that if that was going on a dozen years ago it hasn't grown in popularity since then with the technological advances we have today (laptops with cameras, mobiles with cameras..). It was just something to do in the downtime, pretty sure it didn't mentally damage me. Know why? Cause everyone else did it to. Gasp, secret revealed!
Nice editing of my post, missed out the bit were I said that experts see this behaviour as a road to trying to meet people (grooming).
I also never said it didn't happen years ago or dont think it's happening today or more often. What I do believe is that if an adult poses as a child online to have sexual conversations and exchange photo's then in my opinion (and law) it is paedophillia.
hes a sicko and no way should he be allowed to work in a post like that
Idiots - how do they expect the public to have any confidence in their management of the NHS with this type of rediculous decision making. Total f'wits
not only has he shown himself to be a pervert, he's also shown himself to be dishonest and deceitful....he seems to have all the right qualifications to hold a highly paid publicly funded job...
Sadly there is no such thing as public disgrace anymore - the media/TV are more than happy to give them shed loads of our money
examples range from disgraced MP's/actors/soap stars
Let's not forget they made a murderer a millionaire soap star
Nice editing of my post
What I do believe is that if an adult poses as a child online to have sexual conversations and exchange photo's then in my opinion (and law) it is paedophillia.
I didn't edit your post, I just quoted the relevant bit that I wanted to respond to, it cuts down on spam and lets you know exactly what I'm replying to.
You need to look at the law a little closer. Paedophilia relates to children. People under the age of 12. ie; not teenagers. ie; not relating to this story.
I wiki'd this to make sure and found that people interested in younger teens (13-15) is called Hebephilia and people interested in older teens (16-19) is called Ephebophilia.
Depends if your talking about medical, legal or English definition.
English definition relies on the word "children", which in turn breaks down to "being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority"
Exo: you insuated in cutting my quoting my post that I said "one step from meeting" when I said " one step if you look at what experts say about grooming"
Not word for word but I said according to most experts as you know.
Apologize I dont get the complete definition of a paedophile, I have now read that they must be at least 5 years older than the victim and the victim must not be in puberty, so many different terms.
However still taking all that into account this male who was in his forties was talking in a sexual nature to girls under age whilst pretending to be younger, he also exchanged photo's and as said in article “He exposed young and vulnerable girls to potential psychological harm".
That in my eyes in a very sick individual and someone I class as a sexual nuisance and they should never work in public sector jobs, infact I would lock them all up and throw away the key.
I was chatted up by a Jewish paedophile when I was seven. I knew he was Jewish cos he wouldn't let me eat all the sweets!!
Littlebear: The invisible effects may not be shown, in the mind this could effect they way they behave later in life.
From a couple of messages, etc, I doubt it. I was put in a worse situation where I was confronted over my religious beliefs and was bullied by grown men in some crazy sanctuary - it was scary at the time, but I can't say it did me any damage whatsoever. I'm not saying I know how kid's minds work (apart from my own experience at being a kid), but they see worse stuff on the TV. I was disturbed by some of the stuff I accidentally saw on there, and it's still kind've stuck with me today.
Dizdazdoz, it's called editing to get the relevant point you're referring to across (I did it up there).
Exo: you insuated in cutting my quoting my post that I said "one step from meeting" when I said " one step if you look at what experts say about grooming"
Not word for word but I said according to most experts as you know.
Honest mistake mate, I apologise.
Forget about the doctor for now.
I'd be more worried about the people who have given him this position.
Obviously they don't give two figs about what we think about it
At the end of the day we have the right to expect people in high profile public jobs to have some integrity, this bloke has proved he hasn't so he shouldn't even be cosidered for that type of job. You can bleat on about others being the same, politicians etc, and you can go on about him having done his time but he has proved himself to be untrustworthy. He either knows where all the bodies are buried or he is on the square, he is being looked after.
Forget about the doctor for now.
I'd be more worried about the people who have given him this position.
Obviously they don't give two figs about what we think about it
When have the powers that be EVER considered you & me in their decision making?
.He either knows where all the bodies are buried or he is on the square, he is being looked after.
Gang members,old boys network,freemasons (call it what you will) if they feel untouchable wil look after their own
or
He may just be the figurehead (scapegoat) if things go topsy turvy over the transfer of Wirral NHS assets over to Liverpool
Exo: you insuated in cutting my quoting my post that I said "one step from meeting" when I said " one step if you look at what experts say about grooming"
Not word for word but I said according to most experts as you know.
Honest mistake mate, I apologise.
Thats fine Exo
we both have different opinions and thats good, dont think we will agree on this one. Was not annoyed with your view just the cutting which you seem to understand.
At least we had a healthy debate without resorting to a slanging match (I hope)
At the end of the day we have the right to expect people in high profile public jobs to have some integrity
I think you may have just sacked the European Parliament, our own Parliament and half the Senior Civil Service there mate
NB - purposely missed out the House of Lords, amazingly some of them take their role very seriously never mind how undemocratic it is.
At the end of the day we have the right to expect people in high profile public jobs to have some integrity
I think you may have just sacked the European Parliament, our own Parliament and half the Senior Civil Service there mate
NB - purposely missed out the House of Lords, amazingly some of them take their role very seriously never mind how undemocratic it is.
People do silly things, it doesn't stop them being good at their job.
(Or bad, int he case of parliament and the civil service
)
Thats fine Exo
we both have different opinions and thats good, dont think we will agree on this one. Was not annoyed with your view just the cutting which you seem to understand.
At least we had a healthy debate without resorting to a slanging match (I hope)
True indeed, see you on the next arguable post
Quite agree with you dd. Watching the Labour Conference and the way the cheeky thieving gits are coming up and giving us their worldly wisdom really hacks me off, and before anyone starts on me, the others are no better either.