wirral council admits council tax unlawf

Wow!

it must be the dawn of destruction because i thought i'd never hear those words in the same sentence in that exact order.

But they never admitted that council tax is illegal .... in the circumstances given and to whom they claimed against, there would be no liability for council tax.

Looking at the rest of the tpuc site, there is a lot of bluff by just blocking anything that comes their way, that doesn't mean what the tpuc do, or suggest, is legal.

Oh wow, that made very interesting reading! I bet thats left a few people scratching their heads in confusion and worry lol.

i keep getting hit with bailifs letters demanding money for old council tax bills that after paying one another magicly gets found, after going to c/advice they say basicly youy have to pay them! is there a way out of all this?
i could do with all the helpi can on this as c/advice are useless

Wirral Advocacy might be a good one to ask.. ?

Or just send a copy of the letter the guy (JIM) in the report sent!

Okay folks... so if we stop paying our council tax, how do the essential services that are funded by it, keep running?

Are you saying you don't owe the money?

Out of all of the services they offer matt I use all of none of them, the only one I use is the police from time to time, but thats only to report other peoples problems. If some thing is wrong in my life I will handle it my self.

I think sanchez you get more out of council tax than you think.
refuse collection, highways, street cleaning, leisure centres, park & recreation grounds, planning & building control, environmental health, education, social services, libraries, licensing and probably more.

Are you saying, we should ditch the police service, so we don't have to pay any council tax? Do you not need your rubbish collecting, do you want the streets full of peoples rubbish? Do you never walk down the pavements etc? What if your house catches fire, you happy for it to be burnt down to nothing because the fire service are not there?

If we don't pay for these essential services through our council tax, then we will pay for them through some other means. Knowing the Labour government, it will mean either another increase in fuel duty, which would probably mean another 50% added to the cost of fuel, and/or higher taxes for the poorest people in society.

At this present momnent and time I use absolutly none of them, and im not being pig headed here I acyually dont. Not even bin collecting as I go to clatterbridge were i am charged.

As for enviromental health well.......thats a joke and education.......perhaps if I have kids. Seriously I cant think of anything I use.

And Im pretty sure that on my bill for council tax it is only broken down to 3 things

1. police
2. fire
3. rubbish collection.

The tax on the money I earn pays for the rest of the things that you stated.

It's easy to look at it that way... but either you so green your name begins with H and ends in K, or you put your bins out when you need them collecting lol. You arnt seriously suggesting you always take your domestic rubbish to the tip are you? If you are, then tbh, more fool you lol.

As for the police, you may not directly use them, I too don't and I suspect most people dont. But firstly, they are there when we do need them, and secondly, if they took them away, you would be offering to pay anything to get them back as it would be a free-for-all for all the fkin ... out there.

The police help keep the streets safe, prevent your house being robbed every single night, your car being stolen or smashed up whenever any Tom, Dick or Harry feels like it (no offence if anyones name is Tom, Dick or Harry).

You can ONLY have nice things in your life, material possessions this is, such as a nice TV, car, hifi, games console etc, simply because the police are in the country. If they wernt there, you would not have anything for long. It's not a nice a reality, but that's just the way it is im afraid.

Yer I agree to some extent with the police and fire, but seriously Matt I cant be arsed recycling as it take forever, So I bin bag everything for months on end at the bottom of the garden then go the skip when the mountain gets to high. It only costs around £10 and in my eyes thats a saver as for the amount of time it would take to sort all of that rubbish out in to their proper bins would take forever, So as I earn over £10 an hour its actually more beneficial for me to do things that way. There must be a better way to charge people for council tax, a system more acurate to suit peoples needs and demands.

Its a way of life where taxes or rates are concerned, we all have to pay for things we don't use and/or never likely to use. hopefully some services we never need but are there if needed.

I agree there must be a more accurate system, but that may not be more efficient? I don't recycle or agree with it either, but in my property I don't have to so I am very lucky in that respect.

If they gave you a choice to recycle or not, im sure you would then use the service. The problem is they don't. But im also sure, that the refuse collection part of the council tax is a minority amount - I dont have the big yellow booklet to hand, can anyone confirm this?

Regardless of which, I don't use methadone, and you don't, but we all have to pay for the fkin scagrats who are using it every day and who have never paid a penny in tax, at the cost to we taxpayers!!

Word for word perfect my son