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Posted By: Colgo Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 8:47pm
Came through Greasby this afternoon and most of wirrals police force were camped out on the Roundabout.
Just found this report
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local rumour says he had a Samurai Sword.

Very Sad
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 8:47pm
Thats bad frown whats the world coming to no
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 8:51pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Thats bad frown whats the world coming to no


withthat it getting bad no
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 8:51pm
So thats what was going on.

The Police helicocksucker was hovering near enough over my house for about an hour this afternoon and was doing my head in!!!
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 9:03pm
Bang out of order, but lets not speculate until we know the facts.
Posted By: oxtonmac Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 9:37pm
apparently husband butchers wife with samuri sword then tries to stab himself to death with it ends up with scissors through the heart as a last ditch attempt .

Now been sent to a specialist heart hospital.

also a police officer received head injuries
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 9:40pm
just been on tv looks a bad one no
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby - 11th Sep 2008 10:05pm
Crazy? Dont understand people like this no
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Murder in Greasby - 12th Sep 2008 12:07am
Has it actually been confirmed thats what happened then?

Jeez, a Samourai sword...where do people get things like that from ??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Murder in Greasby... - 12th Sep 2008 1:23am
From the Wirral News....

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Police officer injured on way to Greasby seige incident

AN armed man is believed to be holed up in a house in Wirral after police were called to reports of a disturbance this afternoon.

Merseyside Police said the man is armed with a “bladed weapon” and is contained within the house in Locker Park, Greasby.

Police have sealed off the area and Pump Lane has been closed in both directions.

Officers were called at 2.27pm.

A spokeswoman for Merseyside Police said: “Containment is in place at the address and surrounding area.”

The police also confirmed that an officer had received head injuries after an armed response vehicle crashed while en route the incident.

The crash was at the junction of Greasby Road and Circular Drive.

Police say they are awaiting further details on how seriously injured the officer is.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby... - 12th Sep 2008 1:31am
no

Thats terrible news, hope the officers okay frown
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Murder in Greasby... - 12th Sep 2008 1:35am
Theres been a few incidents recently with police being injured on their way to a callout...

I know there was one in Manchester where he flipped his car into a lampost.

Hope hes ok though...
Posted By: Colgo Re: Murder in Greasby - 12th Sep 2008 3:32pm
Latest news on this.
Scary stuff !
Liverpool Echo
Posted By: mike849 Re: Murder in Greasby - 13th Sep 2008 11:58am
i wionder what drove him to kill her?
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby - 13th Sep 2008 1:10pm
Revealed: Wirral siege wife was beheaded in the kitchen


Latest news....

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Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Murder in Greasby - 14th Sep 2008 12:41pm
Any `unofficial` news relating to this, yes?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 10:35am
Police have charged a man with the murder of 39-year-old Elaine Bailey at her Greasby home on Thursday, September 11.

Robert Bailey, 45, of Locker Park in Greasby, has been charged with murder and will appear in Wirral Magistrates Court later today.

Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 10:52am
Is violence in suburban areas increasing, or are we just hearing about it more because of increased ease of communication/media? Maybe it is because we have mobile phones and hourly news reports (TV, radio, internet), that we hear about these things more often.

I'm not saying that I don't think violent crime is on the increase though. I just wonder why people are more able to come to that decision to injure another person, to the point of taking their life?

I think we live in an age where we are increasingly told you can think and do anything you like. No one is right and no one is wrong. I think the word is 'pluralism'. Morality seems more and more to take a back seat.

Now I'll throw in a controversial idea: Is scientific enlightenment (survival of the fittest) and a move away from traditional (some call them spiritual/religious) values causing an amoral society in the western world?

Discuss.
Posted By: MGCraig Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 11:12am
Yes Maaaam!!!

I have a crude idea, and I believe this is probably the case...

That this is all being caused by a reduction in Family morals (when concerning Kids) and the fact that it is more and more acceptable to have heavy violence in films and computer games.

Waking around Preston last weekend, me and my mates came across some mouthy 10 year old kids, who we promptly told to Feck off....as we were walking back to our flats, they suddenly appeared on a multi storey Car Park, armed with BB Guns!!!!

What makes them think that that is ok?? If an armed Policeman was there, and had a gun aimed at him, he would have no choice but to shoot to kill. Bye Bye annoying 10 year old brat, because they were holding a plastic gun.

Violent Crime has always been around, in fact society was probably more violent in the 1700s than Present Day. As you say though, the advent of Television has brought this type of news into the mainstream. That was the main turning point for the Vietnam War, Television showed it all...
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 11:29am
So maybe Mary Whitehouse had a point after all...but in the 60s/70s people were having too much fun breaking free of the heavy shackles of a Victorian/strongly moralistic age. Actually it probably started earlier than that - maybe WWII? I can't really comment as I've never really looked into the history of it.

Maybe we need to return to some 'family values', maybe we need to tell the PC brigade to shut up. Maybe its all just in the scheme of things. Here's a nice little conspiracy theory:

The overall global powers (primarily western) have been working on this 'free-for-all' way of society for some time. Allowing a break-down in values and lawlessness in general. It is only when we become desperate that they will provide us with their answer - an order to things, a reinstatement of severe rule, a pretty face for fascism. Then they will be able to rule us in such a way that we say 'we needed this' because we are unruly.

This will be the beginning of the end...
Posted By: Waddi Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 12:56pm
What these criminal types need is a good kicking to within an inch of their lives and thrown into a 6' x 4' concrete cell with nothing but a broken bed and a bucket. bring back capital punishment, bring back the stocks, get rid of PC.

European court of human rights, as soon as you break the law you should loose your human rights. all too often does the victim become the accused because they have fought back or retaliated. or even the criminal becomes a victim because the police were a little to heavy handed when they had to wrestle that machette off him.

Soon, compensation lawyers will be applying for visiting orders to visit prisoners. I can see it now, While you were waving round your sawn of shot gun in a bank, the police fired a firearm at you, and the noise was above the recommended db and they didnt supply you with the correct hearing protection prior to this event, I think you have a good case for compensation.

They should have new rules for the board game monopoly, go to jail, do pass go, do collect £200, do collect a games console, freeview box and tv, do collect a qualification or trade, do collect a spacious sleeping quarters and hot meals cooked for you, do expect an early release with help to adapt to life on the outside, do collect a rehoming grant, do collect a new identification, do commit more crimes and back to step 1.
Posted By: Wench Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 1:06pm
withthat 100%
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:25pm
The only problem with the death sentence is when you find out later that person was not the perpetrator.

I think prison should be exactly what it is aimed to be - a punishment. Removal of freedom should also be removal of all other luxuries that come with freedom, such as tv etc. They should not be allowed to work out in a gym so that they will be more able to commit violent acts when they come out.

Here's a nice model:
Beaumaris Gaol
Posted By: Beemertastic Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:26pm
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Crazy? Dont understand people like this no

thats cuz he was mad as a box of frogs..proper window licking nuts!
Posted By: Davey_Martin Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:26pm
harsh news
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:29pm
Originally Posted by Auditastic
Originally Posted by _Ste_
Crazy? Dont understand people like this no

thats cuz he was mad as a box of frogs..proper window licking nuts!

They didn't mention beheading or trying to stab himself in the chest with scissors in the local paper - interesting.
Posted By: Beemertastic Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:31pm
he didnt behead her..just stabbed her in the face..and did himself in the chest with the scissors..had to be tasered by out Tactical aid unit from Firearms...(like uk version of SWAT)
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:34pm
i wonder what caused it - long-standing problem by the sounds of it - and he snapped
Posted By: Davey_Martin Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 2:37pm
no doubt booze or drugs fuelled it, or a mental imbalance - that the only way i can see someone going to the lengths he did
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 20th Sep 2008 3:00pm
its like that guy down south - the millionaire - ok money troubles etc - but murdering your family, horses and dogs, burning down the house then killing yourself? tragic
Posted By: Davey_Martin Re: Murder in Greasby - 21st Sep 2008 6:02pm
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...t-told-of-violent-death-100252-21846174/
Posted By: DavidB Re: Murder in Greasby - 21st Sep 2008 10:08pm
Mum and dad gone. Wonder what the kids are going to do now?

I also wonder where the press got the 'beheading' thing they splashed across the front page?
Posted By: Sanchez Re: Murder in Greasby - 21st Sep 2008 11:32pm
prob le all prss stories, they here some thing and make up the rest, they hear samuri sword and belive that there were beheading going on
Posted By: Davey_Martin Re: Murder in Greasby - 22nd Sep 2008 12:08am
by the sound of it there was no samurai sword either, just kitchen utensils, now i dont know about u but i dont have a samurai sword in my knife block lol
Posted By: MissGuided Re: Murder in Greasby - 22nd Sep 2008 8:11am
I feel so sorry for their kids. One has Down's, so it won't be particularly easy to explain what has happened. I didn't realise how much of a tragedy this was until they mentioned kids.
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