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Posted By: BMW Joe Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 6:56pm
After getting in from work today, I noticed I had a letter off my insurance company (Liverpool Victoria). Thinking it would be good news about either a cheaper more affordable renewal quote or that my claim had finally worked out in my favour, I opened it rather quickly.

After spending a few minutes getting my head around the text and figures, it was to my disbelief that my renewal quote was to be rediculous.

"We have pleasure in enclosing our new quote of £4306.50 annual premium"

WHAT THE F**K!!!!

After my insurance being less than £2000 a year, it's more than double from 1 claim!?!?!

So now I'm stuck with 3 outcomes:

- Try and find a better renewal quote elsewhere (may involve lies)

- Go on the works insurance if possible

- Stop driving


The latter one, as much as I don't want to is seeming a pretty good idea atm as it will allow me to save £150 a month from the insurance, £100 a month in petrol, costs of tax, mot and any mods or problems.

So basically, I'm p*ssed off and just after a bit of advice on cheaper insurance or whats the best thing I could do.
Posted By: scoop Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 6:58pm
this 1 claim? what was it for? ur fault? what else was involved?

As i said on MSN mate,think u shud a 1.1 fiesta and get insured third party,try a new company,maybe do pass plus,fit alarm,do anything to get the figure down
Posted By: krisGTi Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 7:01pm
try auto direct i got a quoite off them an i had 1 crash an 3 points an mine was 1500
Posted By: IzzZzzY Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 7:15pm
Ring the ****ers up and see what there playing at.. can i call them for you and yell? laugh
Posted By: Gary Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 10:09pm
try elephant mate, ive had 3 shhh but 3 claims against me and they are really quite cheap.

or norwich union where good aswell.
Posted By: Mark Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 21st Aug 2006 10:44pm
All your answers possibly click Me
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 22nd Aug 2006 12:44am
just 1 claim, apparantly my fault (stupid backwards woman driver grrrr), just the 2 cars, my car was written off even though the damage was fixable. Tried about 50 companies online so far and the best quote I got is just over £9,000 fully comp, or £2,300 without even mentioning the crash! GAH
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 22nd Aug 2006 1:21am
Man thats bad!

But, from what you are saying, are Liverpool Victoria the cheapest quote you have had?

As all insurance companies use the same "format" to calculate their insurance, so this would be why it has increased.

Hope ya get it sorted mate, I am assuming you have tried Tesco?

frown
Posted By: Mark Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 22nd Aug 2006 1:40am
Jesus

its enough to put you off the road. mad

Its awkward when your young.
And your always chasing that age thing.

Have you tried Sheila's wheels ?

Just speak with a high toned voice

Any chance of you becoming the named (Second Driver) on your car?

Get your pops to insure it and you
as a named driver.

Keep trying mate,
there has to be someone out there
that can get you a better quote.
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 22nd Aug 2006 12:51pm
FFS what a pain in the arse that is eek

As webby mentioned, some companys are now doing no claims for named drivers if it would maybe cheaper to go on your parents policy...

Maybe get a lower risk car...

Keep shopping, theres gotta be somewhere cheaper than £4k - Im not surprised they have pleasure in giving that quote, they must be making a packet!!!

Good luck matey, sound like you might need it ... frown

Almost makes me happy to be old tease
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 22nd Aug 2006 4:57pm
One thing Joe, maybe you should put your number plate back on? (if you havnt already)

Cos you really dont want another 3 points if the police decide to give you some for it, as it would increase you premium further.

wink
i am gutted for you mate, what a nightmare, they are a p*ss take these insurance companies.
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 12:23am
I'll be putting my plates back on, looks like I'll have to sell my car within the 2-3 weeks I have left.

Izzy phoned around the companies I already tried to see if she could get a cheaper quote. The cheapest one was £2500 TPFT with YesInsurance I think.

Been looking at 50cc - 125cc bikes. £30 a month insurance TPFT!!!! That would mean I'd be saving around £200 a month, if not more, as the insurance is cheaper and the petrol costs are amazing (i.e. 100+ miles on a full tank (£10)).

I was speaking to Dazza and he recommended stating that it is kept in a garage and perhaps think about getting a cat1 alarm fitted.

Havn't tried it in anyone elses name yet as I don;t really have anyone elses name to put it in. Mum doesn't drive and I aint spoke to my dad in years lol. Don't speak to my family either lol.

So yeah, either walking, cycling or a 125cc bike for me during the winter months, cas I refuse to use public transport.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 12:26am
Awwwww Joe man, thats so bad! frown

A do hope you can sort things out somehow.
Posted By: Scooby Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 8:23am
Try getting some quotes for a different car, saxo's or fiesta or simillar.

Bikes arnt fun in the winter mate, trust me.....
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 12:42pm
Yeah, Clio's, 106's and Fiesta's in particular are both cheap to buy and insure. The insurance group on your Beemer must be 10/11, so bear in mind most of these cars are only around group 3 - 5. Should be able to save yourself a decent amount, the only thing is, would you go to a smaller car lower sized engine? Don't forget though, if you are okay with a smaller car, although yours is a 1.6 pushing 100BHP, a smaller car is lighter and therefore there prob wont be much difference in speed between yours and a 1.4 small car pushing say 80BHP. A small car is a different world to a saloon though.

smile
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 1:10pm
306DTurbos are group 5. IIRC they are nearly 100bhp too laugh

Might even save you some fuel money with being a derv as well tease
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 1:42pm
Yeah, I like the 306TD's, they are also cheap as chips. Only thing with them is they are not overly fast for what they are (92BHP but slower then most 1.4 petrols) and to be honest their fuel economy isnt much better then petrols.

But I think they are very smart and their features are good. Engines are quite strong, although I have heard in a few places they are "prone" to head gasket failiures, not sure how true this is though.

smile
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 2:45pm
Up the boost a tad and they shoud see over 100bhp wink

Think is the diesel engine is heavier than a 1.4 petrol which makes them a little more "sure footed" on the roads, and they have the torque to pull them round smile

MPG is around 45ish, but when boi diesel is 80p / liter, although their mpg doesnt change, the cost per mile is 20% cheaper smile
Posted By: spinking Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 4:47pm
Joe tesco's and sainsburys are well cheap try them online.
Posted By: scoop Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 5:27pm
yeah joe,get a small hatch with a diesel engine,the smaller the better. I think u can get a corsa with a 1.5 diesel cant u,if thats not cheap to insure then nothing is lol. Also,have u tried a fiat panda (im sure theyre grp 1)
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 10:48pm
In response to most of your replies, these are the cheapest quotes I could be arsed finding cas it's getting me down lol.....

1.7 VAUXHALL ASTRA MERIT TURBO DIESEL 1996
FULLY COMP: £4,518
TPFT: £4,084

Peugeot 306 1.9 Turbo Diesel Sports Edition
TPFT: £3,789 (£200 theft excess)

1997 PEUGEOT 1.9 LX TD
TPFT: 3,789.44 (£200 theft excess)

2001 FIAT BRAVA 80 SX 1.2
FULLY COMP: £5,212.33

2001 PEUGEOT 206 1.4 GLX 5dr
FULLY COMP: £5,995

FIAT PUNTO 2000 1.2 (most rediculous quote for such a small car)
FULLY COMP: £4,832.84

1994 VAUXHALL COMBO LS DIESEL WHITE 1.7
£1890 (Could be an idea at that price!)

1997 FORD ESCORT ENCORE 1.3 RED 5dr
TPFT: £3,505

1992 SUZUKI SAMURAI SPORT 1.3
TPFT: £2,826.36
third party: £2,793.96


So bike it is then!

btw, fiat panda.....I'm not THAT desparate!
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 11:19pm
ahhh just got another a quote on the suzuki samurai sport, £1441.04 TPFT with a 10 month bonus accelerator (whatever that is!) so its now a choice between a 4x4, a van perhaps (thinkin of really cool corsa mods for it lol), and a bike.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 11:22pm
You need to look at older cars mate, the insurance is always higher with new cars.

Look around pre-1994 for lower insurance, the same age as your beemer would be good.

smile
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 11:28pm
ok, i'll try again for round 2 tomorrow lol
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 23rd Aug 2006 11:46pm
Good luck matey!

smile
Posted By: spinking Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 24th Aug 2006 12:25am
Quote
Originally posted by MattyC:
You need to look at older cars mate, the insurance is always higher with new cars.

Look around pre-1994 for lower insurance, the same age as your beemer would be good.

smile
Very true get a mk1 fiesta. Mk3 escort dont see many about and if its early enough should get free tax (i think).
Posted By: Scooby Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 24th Aug 2006 1:02am
Try a 1.1 saxo bud
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 24th Aug 2006 1:16am
The Saxo's are too new Jay, they were from 1996 and also the 1.1 is a group 4 .... the same as many small 1.4's.

My mate has a 1998 1.1 and she is paying a lot more for that then I am for 1.4 Clio.

smile
Posted By: scoop Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 24th Aug 2006 8:08pm
corsa combi van,wouldnt a 3 door with an EVEN smaller engine be cheaper.anything under 2k wud be a bargain matey. ur age with NO NCB is a real problem for insurance companys
Posted By: DavidB Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 26th Aug 2006 11:08pm
It always helps to put your dad or mum on your policy. For some reason, it drops. Mine went down 50 quid (!). I can't believe those prices though, can't you get on your parent's insurance or something? It's depressing!
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 26th Aug 2006 11:55pm
how old are you joe? as when my missus had a crash 3yrs ago, three claims (one including me as i had half my ear cut off eek )she got 5 points for danderous driving, she paid 1200 on a 1.1 mk3 fez bomb, the next year she got a mk4 fiesta 1.25 75bhp iirc and that was a grp6 insurance she paid 980.

think classic if you do decide to go for a car, 6k milage per annum, even a mk4 escort xr3i is now considered classic.

for a scooter tho a 125 gilera runner is a great scooter 55mph wheelies eek doh
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 26th Aug 2006 11:58pm
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Havn't tried it in anyone elses name yet as I don;t really have anyone elses name to put it in. Mum doesn't drive and I aint spoke to my dad in years lol. Don't speak to my family either lol.
Good idea, but theres your answer Miek wink
Posted By: DavidB Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 27th Aug 2006 12:21pm
Ah!
Classics are the way to go though, on classic insurance you'll be paying at least 500 quid on something from the 70's.
Posted By: lawton Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 27th Aug 2006 12:29pm
but dont you have to be over 21 to have classic insurance?
Posted By: Lund Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 27th Aug 2006 12:52pm
Quote
Originally posted by lawton:
but dont you have to be over 21 to have classic insurance?
I was just thinking the same, I don't know if I'd be able to get classic insurance at 17/18yrs with my Mini... think
Posted By: Den Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 27th Aug 2006 2:18pm
the older the car doesn't always mean its cheaper, my insurance actually went down £200 going from a civic 96 1.4 to a civic 02 1.6 vtec sport. quinn direct seem to be the cheapest i can find smile
Posted By: BMW Joe Re: Car Insurance companies are a piss take... - 27th Aug 2006 8:45pm
cheers for the suggestions guys, but I've tried everything. The only thing which are cheap are 4x4's. I mean, I got quoted just over £1000 with a 3.5 V8 Land Rover Discover (Gas Converted). A Massive Car/Tank, and yet really cheap insurance....why so? Does anyone know?

I think if my car doesnt sell, I'll garage it and try and get a 4x4 or maybe walk about for a bit until I can afford the insurance again on my beemer.
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