They've put these up in the Rock Retail Park.

Lets see how many fines come through

I've just rang up, after 8pm you can only stay an hour.

So looks like that's it for the rock

wtf!! next.

Everyone to Upton !!

But its full of chav wagons.

So is the rock... unfortunately its something that comes with the cruising territory

Well what about parking to go to macs at say 10pm

You are allowed up to an hour of parking after 8pm

Seacombe ferry carpark??

Don't the gates close?

I'm sure something like this will be happening in Upton soon too

Might be worth a letter to McD's manager, his business is unfairly comprimised being the only business open after 8pm, if it was extended to 3 hours 24/7 it wouldn't be a problem.

How did you work that one out? How many people go into Macdonalds and spend 3 hours in there (actually buying and eating food and drink that is). It's fast food establishment, not a youth club/social club.

A big fat ZERO.

Besides which, after 11ish, Maccies is drive thru only, in which case, people have even less reason to linger around for 3 hours.

It's pretty clear why they have done this, and it isnt aimed towards, and will not affect people who just genuinely want to make an evening/night journey to Macdonalds.

Yeah... those Nobheads on the bikes the other day doing Burnouts etc..


Simple way around it... go there.. then after an hour, drive out the car park and then return for another hour etc etc...


Youll only be using the car park for an hour... but making 3 or 4 visits to it

It don't work like that im afraid mate, re-read the signage.

30 minutes eh...

Simple then... go park on the other side for an hour .. aka the Wickes side

Be like musical chairs

Or alternatively, explore Wirral a bit more and find more places, since the site is called AutoWirral, not AutoBirkenhead lol.

Other alternative is the road next to Cammel Lairds, with the parking bay all down the left hand side?

Nah, but there are quite a few of the meets that don't go to McDs straight away, certainly after one hour sometimes.

Be interseting to know the legal definition of a customer - if you go to PC World and don't buy anything then may not be a customer and therefore may have parked illegally.

The staff parking might be a problem as well!

Again, how many people reguarly spend 3 hours in PC World? Again, there is no justification to spend 3 hours in Macdonalds - there is a time limit of 1 hour, and if you are visiting to go to Macdonalds, you will go to Macdonalds, not spend 2 hours or so standing around with your mates discussing it.

This is aimed at cruisers, no two ways about it. You may think it dents business, but what Macdonalds may well see, is that the presence of a large amount of cruisers and chavs is actually intimidating to a lot of people and damages trade; for the few people that make their way across to Macdonalds, they may feel that it deters a lot more people from even wanting to bother.

Upton and Birkenhead Maccies have always enjoyed a bit of a war for sales figures and targets etc, and even though Birkenhead has a massively larger catchment and better twilight hour opening times, I suspect that this is not a trait reflected by the customer figures; Upton in comparison to Birkenhead, see's relatively few cruisers/chavs and I bet people (non-chavs and cruisers) in general are a lot more willing and comfortable going to Upton rather than Birkenhead.

What about the workers, McDonalds is 24hr, surely the night workers will be parked for the entire shift, Im sure that is more than 1hr.

Not a bad idea that, meet at Wickes instead

Maccies is only 2 minute walk away

just take ur plates off as u go in sorted!

I totally see your point about cruisers Matt. It was only about 12 months ago that I was judging every person who loitered in a car park in a modded car, to be an intimidating nob head!

Then I met you guys!

Truth be told, I'm still intimidated when I have no idea who the people are (like a few weeks ago when I turned up at the Rock on a Tuesday and the place was full of total strangers - I mentally shat my load!).

I'm thinking from now on meets, official or unofficial will have to be more imaginative, with a spell in one place and then a visit to a McD's if really necessary. Or we could all organise ourselves by bringing a drink lol

A couple of meets lately have seemed to work well that way.

sorry to butt in
Why don't you turn up at the next pub meet
You could meet in the carpark of the pub and meet other wiki members who don't go to your meets

Not the end of the world. Go to Wickes for now. Altho I did notice that they also have an ANPR system

ahh no way

I still think the ferry carpark be good for you guys. Gates are open all night-its usually dead quiet there.
And i can sell you tea and bacon butties at a profit!! Haha

You can stay in the car park. Parking is classified if you leave the car!! Try getting a parking ticket when you're sat in your car!

I think that is an urban myth, but as you say, most wardens wont ticket you if you are sitting in the drivers seat.

They can't use the engine running rule these days because some cars stop the engine when you stop..... Volkswagon did this years ago but someone is advertising it as theirs on tv at the moment.

Legal definition ....

"to bring a motor vehicle or a trailer to a stationary position and cause it to wait for any purpose other than that of immediately taking up or setting down persons, goods or luggage"

How about parking in one space for an hour then moving to another space when the hour is up? How do they define 'stay'? We'll figure something out.

Thats the way it usually is


Car park is usually full when bands are playing.

Also, not much light and there no Maccies!


Somewhere else it is then

Its an evening with Barry's at Upton then

Bromborough retail park they only people that call the police are the staff at Next but if you park by pets at home out the way you're fine. plus you got kfc, asda, maccies, subway, pizza hut and greggs

Spotted the cameras at Wickes like Joe (I think) said, there were loads of people parked in there last night that were in the Castle, California, Revolver.

Quite a few people in the Rock as well, someone is going to be coining it in soon.

I dont see why theyre doing it? Yes theres people loitering etc but theyre hardly doing any harm, the shops are closed after all, and maccies would loose a lot of buissness.

If kids are smashing stuff up i would understand but ive never seen it happen there before.

Hacksaw on the pole anyone

Or aim a chav in a barrywagon at the pole (like they've been trying to do for weeks).

TBH you could always open your boot and then drive in to the car park, and then make sure you parked side on to the camera. Technically you wouldnt be doing anything wrong - you havnt removed / altered your plate etc...

And you would probably do this wouldn't you...

...the other alternative being a fine....

Geeeeeeeee, let me think

I just wonder if they would really bother fining. I wonder if Tesco have actaully got around to fining people yet since they put up their new signs...

Tesco doesnt have infrared, ANPR cameras....

This is true.
How long before Upton do the same?

...how long before the Chavs smash the cameras

Now there's an idea I don't think I'd like my car there when they're throwing rocks that high...

You might be safe - they might just shoot them...

Rock tonight then? lol

Yeah sure Joe if you'll pay my parking fine

First its a quid for some chips, then its a fiver for fuel - we aint paying the parking fines though

A fiver for fuel????? That's because you drive a tank. Its even painted Tank Grey!

So parking in Wickes is a no-no too?

Nooo, Joe was having a whip round for fuel for car his last week

Remember, we had £40, but everyone wanted their money back when they realised it was going in the car and not all over him

That's so old and stale now that joke Stu. In fact I think its so off its growing a furry beard.

few of us will be behind yates at charing cross opposite the fire station as thats where it was before the rock, try and spread the word