Rumour has it, that Nissan will be developing a new 3 cylinder, turboed 1.0L Engine, pushing out 140bhp !!!

The web page isnt very good with the English content, and its unknown whether the picture shows the actual 2010 Micra, but its still an exciting prospect.

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Interesting...

cant polish a turd tho!

No no no...you are mistaken sir Tastic.

This is a brand new engine being developed.... a 1.0L Turbo engine pushing 140 bhp.... with th size and weight of the car, thatll mean you have one damn fast car, regardless of engine size

i agree craig, when i owned my b18 civic, it was pushin out 200bhp weighedabout 950kg and was like a bullet, but mr adam (a former banned lol member) decided to have a pop at me in his 1.3 turbo charged starlet i was very lucky to beat it, as his weighed even less but was turbo charged.

the pop was done on private roads ! honest.

that will be one fast car

Yeah but Craig, the report quotes a 0-60 of around 8 seconds. Now I know thats faster than a lot of car's, but its not exactly insane acceleration.

Anyone ever driven a VW TSi?

nope, what they like matt

they should do a 1.3T 160bhp model lol - and sort out the shape of it, it's dog ugly at the front & the back lol

I aint drove one Just wondering if anyone had, I remember reading about them in Auto Express about 3 or 4 years ago, little 170bhp 1.4 engine, supercharged to 2000rpm, and then the turbocharger takes over.

I thought it was mint when I red it, but have not really seen much about it since.

Really, given the fact it uses the supercharger to remove the turbo lag, it should be called an STI lol.

you are still going to look like a Grrr driving a micra, no matter how powerful it is.

The 1.0 turbos tend to run out of steam very quickly though! Fun to drive!

They did a March/Micra SuperTurbo, which combined a turbo and supercharger. It was Japanese only.

I've got a fondness for these, I'd love one in standard form and just mess about with it.

yer, this was debated about ages ago, called the k20 or some thing, i'd love a go of one too, bet there well quick

FK THAT!..it will still be a fookin micra...and which ever way you look at it...its still a fookin turd!

turds cant be polished.

Stop wasting everyones time sayin what a great car it would be...when in fact its gonna be a fookin turd.

whatever engine gets thrown into it (and 140bhp if fookin nothing!), the chassis isnt gonna be upto it..nor are the rest of the components.

Stop stop saying how great it would be when the only thing it would be great next to would be a perodua

Go and drive a proper car..ie soemthing with at least 250 to 300bhp...thats designed to be a proper car...and then come back and tell me that a shitty micra is a "great car"....otherwise stop fkin wasting everyones time

We can only see when it's released.

some small pokey cars are fun to drive though auditastic, ie the old 1.3 mini's or the metro gta's.

I have driven an m5 (new shape one) for 2 weeks, an S5 and S4 and can honestly say that they all brought as bigger smile to my face as the mini's and metro's, even the saxo's have their own smile factor to them. Its about variation bud. The micra isn't a super hac, but i bet it will be more fun than most powerful cars on the road

so on that that, i'll pput it in the great car class.

Ill never need a 300bhp car tbh, so I guess ill never have a proper car. A ZS180 will do me just nicely.

I have a few mates over in the US, who would say that unless you drive a 500bhp+ 8mpg muscle car, you aint driven a proper car, so I guess it's personal preference...

I would have to agree with your mates in the US......
Nothing to do with personal preference....simply put the reaction times/handling and ability of a car with 200 bhp is significantly different to that of a micra...
Without getting on my soap box and shoving my views down other peoples necks...I would like to point out a few things.
The law considers me to be and expert driver/witness.
I had to undergo significantly more training to drive the high power cars....
I am an experienced officer in my field of expertise.
There is no way that any tubord micra will have any similarities in driving styke to a big...high powered engine in a sorted chasiss.
i know what im talking about therefore....when i say the micra WONT be a great car...it may be quick in acceleration...but thats where it stops..theres far more to cars performance than just in a straight line accleration performance.

IM sure, that in all the years of watching Police camera action, there has only ever been one case where they didnt catch the criminals.

In that instance, they were driving a Micra, because no matter how fast a Volvo T5 is etc, it doesnt have the 1st and 2nd gear "nippiness" of a Micra, nor can it fit down alleyways particulalry well.


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Well, think that pretty much seals that arguement anyway.

On a side note, I reckon that from doing my Rally School day in a 180hp MKII Escort, Id have better car control than a lot of the people in America who drive these 500hp beasts...with a fraction of the power. Thats why America are shite in the Motorsport World. Oh, except Nascar, because theyre the only ones who do it

Let's be honest here, American muscle car's don't feature handling, the steering wheel is only there for show. They, more than any other car probably, only travel in a straight line. They are all grunt and no class. That does'nt detract from their status, but they are hardly a good advert for handling or reaction times?

Craig, thats Traffic cops, not P-C-A lol.

oh fook me..micras are fkin shite...END OF...putting a turbo on it doesnt change shit..its a fkin heap of crap...and all your arguments to the contrary are flawed...because at the end of the day...YOU CANT POLISH A fookin TURD!

and for the record the T5s are so fkin great either...hence why id rather not drive one.....

Thort you liked the T5 Dave??

putting a turbo on a car doesnt take if from "crap" to "great" now does it?.....

on motorways..they are fine...straight line..nt bad...dnt like front wheel drive..hence why im just about to buy a 330d as a replacemnt for the audi

totally dissagree bud, there are good for their own reasons, they are not trying to be a super car, nissan build the skyline for that, they are trying to to be the same small easy to dive car, but with a bit of poke, fun driving,. tbh i'd have more fun in this car than i would in an expensive sports car simply because it will be more fun to chuch around with out fear of wasting 50k +

if you were a half decent driver...you wouldnt fear "chuckin around a 50+k car...."

I rest my case.....

Lol, good point, probebly only 1 out of ten of us are good drivers, so this surly cater's for those other 9.

I'm not an amazing driver, but i'm not the worst, I remember when i loaned my M5 to a proffetional driver (own's a 600+bhp starion and races it regulary) and said scare the shit out of me, he didn't hoof it other than in a straight line, through fear ? cost ? even I drove it more vioently than he. What ever, but i bet if i stuck him in one of those micra's with-in 30 mins he'd be laughin his tit's off and wangin the thing all over the place.

or he would be going this is a fookin bag o shite..thats still fookin micra all said and done..and someone thinks its "GREAT" cuz they have bolted a crappy turbo onto it!

your missing the point entirely here.

nope..it seems your missing the point by saying a micra goes from being a crap car to a great car by merely bolting on a crappy turbo...
Hence why its still a crap car!

You lost still ranting about this haha, its a Micra, its a fast Micra, its a car that people will buy, if, and thats a big if, but if it ever sees the light of day in the UK.

Im wondering if Audi is worried that the next generation of boy racers will be buying these, and he won't be able to keep up with them around the built up housing estates - joke lol.

I think ye should agree to disagree, because it is all based upon opinion's, some people hate the idea of a powerful engine lumped into a small and built for 60bhp cars (my dad can't stand anything below a 3L unless he has to for instance), other people do like them.

Its a no win situation hehe.

The new engine will put the car into the same league as the Corsa VXR.... is that a bad car?

Its a Corsa, which means I hate it, but I dont doubt its hndling and speed capabilities. This micra will be the same...it wont just be a crap bag of nails, itll be a full works, Fast, good handling small performance car. And it probably wont break after 4 miles.

Its a vauxhall..i fkin hate vauxhalls....


comparing a turbod micra to a corsa vxr is fine..they are BOTH shit!

A good car is something like a BMW m3...or Audi rs4...THOSE are industry standards for what defines good handling/power balance..
ie a good car!

Trying to say a turbod micra is anything more than a polished turd is complete CRAP.


Im deadly serious about this...go test drive a few proper cars...and go and drive the crappy turbod micra.....then you will see my point that no matter what you do to a micra...its still a fookin turd at the end of the day.

and fook me..if i cant catch a crappy turbod micra....there is something wrong with me and i shouldnt be doing my job....end of.

i have a shit load more to worry about in my life than wether or not a bunch of chav ... are goin to buy a turbod micra and ive then got to chase them............

Come on, you have to admit chasing chav ... is fun. Gets the blood and adrenaline pumping

My New car, the 146 is rated well up in the handling wall of fame. Ill stick with that rather than testing a lump of German Metal cheers.

The MKII Escort and Escort Cosworth rallycars I drove 3 years ago were brilliant handling cars. I dont need to drive a Boring/Bland/Unimaginative M3. Absolute waste of money in my view.

nice motor and indeed it handles well...

However go and drive an rs4 hard and then tell me its "bland". My works 330 certainly wasnt bland!

when your suitably qualified and experienced in driving...come back and tell someone who gives a shit!

I have many a time.... thisis what im sayin, there as fun as each other.

well..if u enjoy driving turds..feel free...after all this is a free world we live in....

lol, i've never known anyone be so worked up over such a simple topic, and to not even want to continplate entertaining anyone's opinion on the matter other than your own subborn view tickles me..........

no...i just cant believe so called "car enthusiasts" can be so blinkered as to what constitutes a "great car".

a turbo micra is not a great car..thats all im saying.

a micra is a crap car..bolting on a turbo doesnt change it from a crap car to a great one....

and fook it...im spoiling for a fight....ive been cooped up and off work for too long!

Not as bad as a Nova though

Unfortunately we cant all afford an RS4 or M3. Some people, mainly young people have to make do with a small hatch. The intended market isnt loaded, so the cars will have to be built to a price so you cant expect a Variable vanos twin turbo vtec quad cam v6 fancy jobby like an M3 or Audi. To be honest 140bhp is plenty but its not really much for the chassis to ask for, and i very much doubt nissan would sell a car without sorting the chassis to match. Its never going to be intended as an out and out supercar and never will be so i wouldnt feel threatened by it.

I doubt nissan will sell it over here anyway.

But if they do, what i like about it is the aftermarket availability if it is a good car. All itd need would be some brakes and coilovers and wind the boost up a bit and youd have a properly sorted car that doesnt cost a bomb second hand, like a Fiesta RS Turbo or Starlet Turbo.

lol, I thought that, so I aint biting !

fooker...spoiling my fun!!!!!


its still gonna be a turd of a car..turbo or not!

lol, (it is, just don't tell craig I said so )

Not once did I say I liked the car. Ive driven a Micra for a few years, nd yes its fun, but its not a serious preformance car. They got worse as they carried on, so Nissan are gonna have to pull something out the bag.

Id never buy one, Im happy with the Alfa thanks

So you concede..the turbod micra is a turd of a car!!!!

As a car, it may be very good.
But seeing as not everyones after a Performance car, I refuse to concede.

Whats the point of owning a Big, 3-500 BHP Monster, if you cant use it? Is it to be safe in the knowledge that you "Could" use it if wanted.... but cant? In the real world, its just not practical.


Thats not a dig at you by the way man... More a dig at the reason these cars are made.

nope..ill have that...its more a dig at the eason these cars are made.

Howver the point about the 500bhp monster...having driven some sheds in my time..and some beasties...i have to conclude an engine with an excess of power is safer that a little underpowered engine..simply because in a powerful car you can either brake or acclerate to get out of harms way..in a little car you can only brake...which isnt always the right thing to do!...

I see what your getting at, but in that situation, another problem is the way people react to a incident. Say we're on a motorway, and a car in front has a blowout, spinning violently. Most people will simply slam on the brakes, and hope for the best, at which point they hit the spinning car,and the car behind slams into them etc..

The emphasis should be on trying to avoid the object in front, by steering away or what not. Am I right in thinking this is what they teach on advanced courses??


In a race, drivers are tought to aim for the spinning car, because 90% of the time, the car will have spun out of their path.


Unfortunately though, using that Crash video in the video thread as an example, with the trucks colliding and exploding, the cars on the inside of the truck stood no chance watsoever, with 50bhp or 500bhp... Well never be 100% safe

I went for a good blast today in the work van, and i reckon its a good case for an arguement against little fun cars and high performance cars.

I was out skelmersdale way in the country lanes and its only a 1300 cdti corsa van (not a big booted one, just a corsa with panels and no back seats) and i had some good fun. In my car, a pretty sorted 200+bhp car, you can never quite push it to its absolute limit incase it bites, and the speeds you carry and rates at which you accelerate and brake is much more vicious and equally as dangerous and risky. But in the little corsavan you can rag the tits off it, giving it 110% fullwell knowing your safe, and theres no chance of wrapping it around a tree at 120mph. Im not going to argue that it feels as fast, thats silly, it doesnt, but i reckon its just as much fun.

At the end of the day though, you dont see me trading the RS in anytime soon for a 1300 DIEsel corsa do you?

You can have fun in anything if you want but you should never discount the little runabouts, ever.

(in best maniacial meglamaniocal cackle)

There no substitute for cubic inches.........
ive said it before..and ill say it again....

I agree, cc's rule, but turbos are a genuine replacement.

If a 1 litre engine runs at two bar of boost, theoretically it can burn the volume of 2 litres. Its not quite that simple but you get what i mean.

One answers rules all though, big engines with turbos.

Dont confuse volume with pressure

Well, im not sure if it works out right, but keeping it simple if atmospheric pressure fills a container to the volume of 1000cc if its at twice the pressure, then shouldnt it double the volume because of the compression? I know youd have to allow for temperature increases and any changes in humidity etc but would that be right? If you know better then tell me cause i find it interesting. Im boring like that you see.