Only 3 weeks to go before the Wallasey Motor Clubs Promenade Stages Rally, this year sponsored by Accident Advice Solicitors.

By popular demand it will once again be run on the Friday night and all day Saturday. The Friday night will be slightly different to previous years due to time constraints, and cars will set off at 30 sec intervals rather than a Super Special side by side.

The The Friday kicks off at 2pm with the cars going through scrutineering and noise testing, and between 7 and 10pm the cars will take on a pair of stages.

First car is out at 8am on Saturday morning, and the even should be finished by about 6pm.

Cost is £5 per car, £3 per person on foot - this includes a programme - if you purchase a programme on Friday, keep this for free admission on the Saturday

More info can be found on the Wallasey Motor Club Site

OH lord, a load of noise and black tyre marks all over the promenade once again, going round bends and roundabouts the wrong way, what fun........................ not............ just encourages the ' boy racers ' to kill themselves and other innocent people on their mad jaunts up and down the promenade during evenings after the happening and most evenings of the year.......

I'd also like to mention that the 2013 event won the Wirral Tourism award, 2014, for the best event on the Wirral in 2013.

Thankfully you seem to be in the minority as the event is always well received by the majority, not to mention what it does for the Wirral, it is also the only "closed road" rally in England (at club level), so it's a very rare spectacle which is over subscribed every year and draws in 1000s of spectators

normal driving in Seacombe :-)

Stuy

I would not want to spoil anyone's fun and a bit of road closure for the event is not important. I do however wonder about the damage such an event must cause to the road surface? The surface is bad enough as it is! Does the Club pay a fee for the road use? I can't see then getting road use for free! If so I have to wonder whether the fee will (eventually) be put into some road repairs either on the prom or elsewhere in the area?

Snod

The majority of the strip needs re doing where the rally takes place

Yes Snod, Wallasey MC pay the council for the road closure, not sure of the figure this year, but it's by far the largest expense after the barriers and they come in at nearly £2000!

What an absolute bunch of boring misery guts!

If the so called "Boy Racers" kill themselves and innocent people "most evenings of the year......." down the promenade, then what difference does a profesionnally held and run Motor Rally over 1 weekend make?!?!

This event has been going on for YEARS! And hopefully it will continue to do so. One of the biggest and best highlights of the year for the Wirral, and as already mentioned, a Tourism Award winner for our area!

Me and the family will be down again both days, year after year, showing our Support for our local Petrolhead thrillseekers!!

If you don't like it, then please don't litter this thread with negative comments. Go for a walk somewhere on the Friday/Saturday, or maybe try some flower arranging!

3.....2.....1.... GO!!!
(Cannot wait!)

Everyone entitled to their opinion, they make a mess of the roadway, produce loads of noise, fumes,litter and inconvenience to people wanting to get to New Brighton. You go and watch it by all means but dont expect everyone to like it just because you do. Little boys and their noisy toys.

- The roadway is for the use of cars anyway. It is not designed to be pretty. I fail to see the issue. Do you have a road fetish?

- Noise limits are set in place to ensure that there is no long lasting Environmental damage/Noise Pollution. Car too loud? You dont compete. The Wirral Show with its ancillaries was a louder event overall.

- A Single Boeing 747 uses more fuel TAXIING to the runway ready for takeoff, than an entire weekend of club motorsport. Hope you haven't been on Holiday anytime recently...

- Litter isnt usually dropped by the competitors/organisers. Massive efforts to clean up after the event ALWAYS take place. Bins are provided. Blame the inconvenienced "Locals" enjoying the promenade for that (Problem with society).

- 363 other days in the year for people to enjoy an Inconvenience Free Promenade. I see lots of people there all the time, all the way through the year. If you decide to only visit the Promenade once a year, on 5th & 6th September, then I have no sympathy. There are still 2-3 other routes down to New Brighton front, so again, no real issue there.

I dont think competitors would take too kindly to being referred to as "Little Boys" with noisy toys in all honesty. A lot of time, effort and money goes into the ownership and general running of the cars and in a very safe and PROFESSIONAL manner. In order to compete, you have to pass a series of medical tests, Theory and Practical tests to prove that you are safe to drive at competition speeds. So whereas a normal driving licence is a PRIVILEGE used and abused by the majority of people with no actual knowledge on how to handle a car and THINK they DESERVE to be on the roads, Rally Drivers are among the few to have actually earnt the RIGHT to drive, and to do so quickly in closed events. Plus the Vehicles used are arguably much safer, and much more closely monitored than your road car with Budget Tyres and an MOT once a year!

And as a final mark which Im sure you'll be against, the Government have opened up discussions with the MSA to increase the powers local Councils have to hold and stage closed road motorsport events on public roads. So unfortunately, seeing as Britain loves Motorsport (and happens to be at the Pinnacle of the Industry throughout the world)there may well be a lot more taking place to further Inconvenience the minority such as yourself. Unlucky

Of course, everyone is entitled to an opionion, but if you are against closed promenades, litter, noise etc, are you also against the Hoylake Lifeboat day? This closes a prom, has more noise from the planes and generates huge public interest and litter. Its for Charity? Well yes, but a lot of charities also benefit from the Rally also with donations from the club plus collections on the day in an area full of people - it was considered a few years back that the rally wasnt going to be run, and the RNLI (to name just one charity) were very disappointed due to the loss of the fund raising opportunity.

Damage to the actual surface is very minimal, it moves loose stones from the tarmac around, as the rally uses parts of the roundabouts / prom that dont usually get driven over. This moves gravel (loose stones) around, giving the impression it has torn up the surface when it hasnt - the cracks, pot holes and lifting of the surface are caused by water and frost. (Plus, the Rally has to pay a fee to close the road, and insurance covers any road furniture that may also be damaged)

Im not saying its to everyones taste, but its not just "little boys and their noisy toys" that benefit from the event, so please be fair with any negative comments

Interesting addition to the BBC News Website today, showing all road deaths that Occurred in Britain between 1999 and 2010. Clicking on the Wirral area and scrolling up to the Promenade, we can see that only 1 incident has occurred on Wednesday 22nd March 2000.



Clicking the icon brings up more details on the tragic event...



So as we can see, a motorbike incident that occurred 6 months after the event took place (if it was run in September of that year, my memory fails me in this instance unfortunately). I fail to see how these professionally run stages inspire Boy racers to kill themselves and the Public around the New Brighton Area. Absolute load of Hear'Say Poppycock.




Just over 2 weeks to go!!

Cannot wait

As I said before ' little boys and their noisy toys ' and if that turns you on then lucky old you........

Perhaps you would like to read THIS, I wonder why that was not in your stats ?. I was there that night, only one word for it, horrific. By the way, the situation has not changed, the ' boy racers' are still at it most nights emulating their ' rally heroes '.

I guess the misinformed are entitled to their negative opinions, if you think the Prom event was responsible for that then you really are clutching at straws.

Thankfully the event is well received, proven by the tourism award - if it had a negative impact on the area them it wouldn't be allowed to run.

How do you know that it was not responsible for the incident. How do you know that someone watching the event on the same road does not try and copy the rally drivers. You don,t on both.

Why also, when people disagree with things, which they are fully entitled to do, they are misinformed and negative. If you like it then good for you, I don't and I am saying so and fully entitled to do so without being classed as misinformed and negative. Could call you names but don,t need to, to make my point.

You have called me a "little boy with a noisy toy", as a competitor this year I would suggest that is verging on a personal insult, so naturally I'll defend my hobby.

You also made your point in the first post, but keep on at it. At no point have I suggested you are not untitled to an opinion, but it's the same one you keep trolling the thread with.

The unfortunate incident mentioned couldn't be proven either way, but I think it harsh to link it to the rally. Your opinion has been noted

The incident mentioned also occurred over 2 months AFTER the rally took place. Tragic that a small minority of Britain's motorists drive dangerously and out of their depth. But how DO YOU KNOW that it was directly responsible for their misjudged course of actions? If I remember correctly also, the driver of the vehicle had been found to be Over the Drink Drive limit, and "that Richard was undergoing treatment for psychiatric problems and was known to be a user of amphetamines, cocaine and cannabis." All of which were found in his body at the time of the crash.

"It's a fast stretch of road because of the way it was designed" so yes, it may inspire young drivers to drive quickly, but its because of the layout that the rally takes place there, not the other way round. Blame the Council instead maybe? Or the Driving instructors for not instilling the importance of driving safely from the beginning? Or maybe the family members of those themselves? How about the schools he went to for not driving home the dangers of substance abuse? Or maybe, just maybe, blame the young lads themselves who tragically took their own lives in a drug and alcohol fuelled drive.

Also, as noted by Stuymac, your posts are indeed verging on Personal Insults. Insults which you have posted more than once. "Little Boys with their Loud Toys" suggests to me you feel you are of greater importance, more educated and therefore have more right to use the Promenade than these competitors. Superiority Complex maybe? But yes, it is down to personal opinion. And thankfully one that you share with an utterly useless and impossibly small minority!

I would LOVE to get you in my car
You wouldn't talk for a week after

Lighten up a bit, go down and view the rally, you never know, you may enjoy it

Oh, and those 2 brothers that died in that car were proven to be on drug and drink whilst driving.
Not only that but they were driving a pug 206, gotta be one of the crappiest handling cars ever, deathtraps they are.

What narrow minds you all have. Anybody who does not like your rallying is an utterly useless and impossibly small minority! Now who is using Personal Insults.

Superiority Complex, hardly, just a total dislike of rallying and all that goes with it.

Obviously you cannot understand people not liking your beloved sport well there are a lot of people in Wallasey and New Brighton who, like me dislike it.

By the way I enjoy the Hoylake Lifeboat Open Day immensely and go every year, its much more peaceful and pleasant. No barking of exhausts and shrieking of tyres and the stink of petrol, that's my choice and I am entitled to it as well as my opinion.

You live in Hoylake (as I read it in the Open Golf thread), so how does the noise effect, smell, etc effect you? You also used the term "little boys", an unnecessary term which could only cause friction.

You also mentioned you where there, in New Brighton, on the evening of the incident mentioned about. Looking at your comments I don't believe you have the right attitude and aptitude to be one of the attending emergency services, so I'd be interested to know in what capacity you where there in, spectator? Rubber necker? I'm sure if you had realities there you would have also mentioned that previously as a far more valid point to back up your points, which quite frankly don't immediately effect you.

I also enjoy the hoylake lifeboat event, but does the air display also not make noise? Do the crowds not make a mess and litter the beach, and I'd hate to see you change your mind if someone parks on the pavements

The only good thing to come from your comments is that you have kept the thread up in the active topics list, happy trolling, I'm sure this isn't the end of it, as Internet trolls can't help themselves

Ah I see, just because I don't like Rallying and all that goes with it then I am a Troll, that is the most inane comment I have seen on this site, mind you, you like rallying so why should I be surprised.

There are people in this world that don't like rallying which you seem blind to, I think you need to get out more and get a bit of experience of life, enjoy the rest of the day.

How can you not like seeing a mk2 escort going sideways? I don't no . do you drive a Prius ?

In my eyes it's the best thing that comes to this area

Lol, I think you need to look up what trolling means.

You are totally entitled to an opinion, which you gave, and then proceeded to troll. You have also debated something you have no interest in, with comments which you must know would stir responses, and continue to do so.

Now please run along and find something to talk about that you do have an interest in, something which you can provide constructive and positive input to.

I only just noticed this. "Cost is £5 per car, £3 per person on foot". £3 to stand on a PUBLIC HIGHWAY, now that is taking the Pi$$.

I think as the closure is paid for, it's classed as renting it from the council which may be to do with the insurance and that public highway rules don't apply to allow the rally to happen

The entry fees help to pay for the closure, 50% of which go to a local charity.

The argument is that I do not like rallying and my interpretation is ' little boys with noisy toys ' - you don't like that because you are a for it so you discredit my dislike of rallying by calling me a troll.

How sad, why don't you accept that not everyone likes or wants rallying on New Brighton Promenade and it is not the be all and end all of events. It will go ahead like it always does, but that does not mean that it is wanted by everyone, it just means that money has been paid to WBC for road closures and the event has been sanctioned by them.

Everyone has the right to state their feelings over events, happenings etc and I have done just that. I pay my council tax and as such, have a right to comment on what goes on. The fact that you have dismissed peoples feelings or should I say right to object, shows just how much you are out of touch with life and democracy. You want what you want and and say how dare I object to your event going ahead. Well I do object, even though I have no chance of stopping it, I have the moral right to object to it.

Grow up and admit that not everyone likes what you like and give them the right to say so, which they have, without demeaning them and calling them trolls,as a coverall for anyone's objections.

Slightly replying to Stuymacs post.
I don't mind them racing away, I would love to go see them but no way would I pay to see them drive on a public highway. Also what is this noise testing crap??. Oh, and if you like commenting on something in a negative way it don't make you a troll, just voicing your opinion. Check posts, some entice a reaction. I don't have a heart, so cant be offended ,nor upset.

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]"

After the first post that just about sums it up....

"The only good thing to come from your comments is that you have kept the thread up in the active topics list, happy trolling, I'm sure this isn't the end of it, as Internet trolls can't help themselves whistle"

Does this come under
"extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response"

...in response to a prior "extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response"

I'll stop replying now, it'll be a cracking rally for those interested.

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Truly amazing!!


Cannot wait to overrun the Promenade again and ruin the weekend for all the locals year after year. Any idea so far on competitor numbers guys? The kids have taken over the conservatory with their "Rally Stages". Not sure exactly what Thomas the Tank has to do with it all, but good they're getting prepared

What was truly amazing?

Competitor numbers will be issued once the seeding has taken place, I think this is presently being worked out.

There will also be a reseed after the Friday night, for Saturday to make sure the order is reflected in performance

A bit like the chavs and their fetid offspring every day of the summer then, leaving their instant bbq's, empty wife beater/tennents/carling/xxxx/supermarket own brand cans, white lightning plastic bottles, sausage roll/McDonalds packaging, full nappies, broken lambrini bottles, joint ends etc. So glad I've moved away from the front! All I miss is the easy access to the Rally, Morrisons, the RAF hooning up the river and the ships.

I've been going to the Rally for more years than I care to remember (apart from a hiatus when I got married and lived down south) and love it! It's a couple of days a year - hardly a major inconvenience. It helps put Wirral on the national map which leads to more money being spent and invested. I am proud to have been involved with it for many years. It's bloody hard work but SO worth it! I am just gutted that I will miss it this year as I am at an album launch down south.

As for whoever commented about the boy racers killing themselves - who cares!?! If they kill innocent people then that's terrible. The only thing that bothers me about them killing themselves is the emergency services that have to pick up the pieces and clear up the mess and the money wasted on inquests.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand breathe