As i paid for my collection of Now That's What I Call Music vol-1 to vol-80 and Clubland Vol-1 to Vol-20 in download format am I allowed to sell it either on discs or transfere it from my drive to some one elses, as long as I delete it from my drive when its sold.

Is this legal?

You cant do it willo.

They encode them so that they only work on your computer.

They dont encode them so they only work on your computer.

However you're still not allowed to do it.

They are not encoded, I thought that as long as i have paid for them, i could sell them, as long as i dont keep copies

I personally dont see a problem if it doesnt say anything about resale in the terms and conditions of the service you downloaded it from and you didnt change, re-encode or strip any DRM from the 'originals'. But record companies like to kick up a stink anytime they feel they arent getting anything (they did the same with 2nd hand cd stores). Technically I see it being the same as reselling cds just in a different media format. But I'm no lawyer.

Maybe if you supplied a copy of the original receipt as proof you paid for it to any potential buyers?

It would be interesting to know if there was a legal precedent for this.

Your not supposed to do you it but physically you can do it , however I cant really see anyone buying them really, I havent paid for a online song in my whole 15 odd years online

Ive been dealing with record companies for years both for my own music i make. And the music we sell in my shop so im pretty clued up on the legal side of it. And its illegal to resell Mp3s something to do with royalties and stuff.

This is the reason you should always buy hard copies.

However they would probably never find out and everyone would go about there day as normal ha!

Why would you not pay for a song in mp3 format?

Would you also go into a shop and take a CD for free?

Where did you get them from? If you 'bought' them from iTunes you don't own them, you've leased them. It'll detail in the eula why you can't sell them.

It's when finding out stuff like this about the unfairness of the music system online that people simply turn to torrents

Is it actually a proper law though, or just terms and conditions?

In other words, would it hold up in court?

It's like renting a car and then trying to sell it. You can't sell something you don't own.

Not really, you dont pay weekly/monthly to have a cd in your posession and then give it back when you stop paying that fee.

Technically that also applies to software/games/cd's and other things, you pay for the right to use it, not actually own it or the rights to it. That is why media companies whine so much, that doesnt stop them from being sold in record shops/video game stores/etc. So my question still stands, is it a legally enforceable law, not just a companies T&C's?

The law states if you own a hard copy then its ok to sell on.

But mp3s are not allowed to be sold on

No. You pay for a physical licence of the media you listed. Music bought from certain online stores is different, you lease the track. You have no rights to it. If you buy a game or a cd you own the copy you have bought, but are restricted as to what you can do with that copy due to copywrite laws etc.

Willo you could try looking at https://www.redigi.com/home.html

Is it illegal then to transfer my tapes and CD to MP3 Format? Ive just started; not for selling or anything just for the convenience

I wouldnt go into a shop and take a cd of course not however when i can download for free i see no point in purchasing

plus i think selling copied cd's is a thing of the past as most people now download/purchase via itunes and not like it used to be years ago where there was a massive demand for copied cds

Yes it is illegal. The Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 is what makes this illegal. And don't get started about the "backup copies" section of this Act, as this is not referring to making backup copies of games, DVDs, CDs, etc.

For those who think it isn't theft... it is. The diagram trying to justify piracy is wrong, as piracy is intellectual property theft, whereas stealing a physical CD is your run of the mill theft. Theft is theft.

It is quite right that you are purchasing a licence to listen or play the music. You cannot sell this licence as it isn't yours, therefore you cannot legally sell the digital copy of the song.

Oh, there was me thinking it was copywrite infringement and that's why when people are stupid and don't know how to share without getting caught they get charged with COPYWRITE INFRINGEMENT and not 'intellectual property theft'.

Trading standards will see things differently if you try and sell music that isn't yours. They actively attend car boot sales and confiscate and prosecute anybody doing it.

I've illegally downloaded a ton of music, but I've also spent thousands in the past 20 years on CD's and vinyl.

willo who gives a toss mate its only a couple of tracks anyway just sell them on, you bought them you sell them end of, no onesa gonna prosecute you

Jees, i remember paying £10 each for pirated games in the days of the abacus computer fairs over in scouseland there, if the person that buys them aint assed just do it

I would have thought he'd have trouble finding someone to buy them in the first place. Anyone that buys music will buy it from iTunes or wherever, people that pirate music wouldn't spend money anyway. Why would people buy pirated tracks? Confuses me, but then I don't understand how the market for CD's or DVD's is alive in this day and age so ..

Copyright (not Copywrite) infringement = intellectual property theft.

Intellectual property includes copyright, trade marks, designs, patents, etc...

Actually ex0 spelt "Copywrite" correctly, just you failed to spot the humour in it

Yeah that's my bad, I'd just woken up.

Oh go on, I am dying to hear this "humour"...