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Posted By: jen8505 money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 12:27pm
Just after a bit of advice really. I lent someone who was a friend 50 pound as she was struggling 8 weeks ago. We no longer speak and she is refusing to pay me back the money I lent her and is now ignoring completely. Is there anyone I can speak to who can help get my money back. It might not seem like a lot but I am a single mother with a 5 month old baby and do not get much per month mad
Posted By: cathie Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:32pm
I would go to your local police station and ask them were you stand on getting your money back.
Posted By: little_pob Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:33pm
CAB should be able to advise further, but I think the Small Claims Court will be your only route and will initially cost you £35. If you win she'll have to pay your costs, if she wins you'll have to pay her's.

Unless you have an independent witness, or other proof that it was a loan, she may try to claim it was a gift or payment.
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:46pm
This is my problem. Everyone who knows I lent her the money is her family and would obviously side with her
Posted By: little_pob Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:49pm
Has she sent you any texts or emails or left voice mail that would prove she asked to borrow the money?
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:51pm
The money was to buy a new tv unit which she chose and bought in argos. Would the fact that it was paid on my card help in any way?
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 1:52pm
No it was all done face to face as she's my baby's aunt
Posted By: little_pob Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 2:08pm
As I don't want to get your hopes up, nor put you off, I'll reitterate the suggestion of dropping down to the Citizens Advice. They'll be able to advise you much better than I can.
Posted By: paulph1972 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 2:37pm
I don't think that there is anything you can do as it's your word against theirs. I've also been in the same situation.
Posted By: Hedgehog Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 2:59pm
Write it off and move on.
She can't be much of a mate so no loss there.
Posted By: TheDr Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 3:12pm
Originally Posted by jen8505
The money was to buy a new tv unit which she chose and bought in argos. Would the fact that it was paid on my card help in any way?


If you bought the unit and it was on your card then you are the owner of it, which does change things slightly, as now you can prove that the transaction actually took place.

If you never want to speak to here again what you could do is to go to her house with a friend and ask the police to attend, to prevent a breach of the peace, they wont help you, and collect your goods (make sure you have the receipt).

She will either let you take it (which is better than you have now), scream out that she'll pay you back (in which case you now have witnesses to the debt), or say that it's not yours (in which case you can then say, in front of the police, that the Argos CCTV will show her with you when you bought it).

Things can get tricky, but don't go down on your own and make sure you get the police to attend as when you have asked her about it before she has been "threatening", and all you want them there for is to prevent a breach of the peace.

Depends how far you want to go, you could get a solicitors letter sent to her and see if that spurs her on to pay you back,
Posted By: BandyCoot Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 3:18pm
Some solicitors do a freebie consultation but once they start writing letters it would cost you, but they will give you best advice.
Posted By: bangbang Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 4:39pm
sad her lending money and not payn you it back hope she has bad look
Posted By: woofie Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 5:04pm
This seems wrong which ever way i look at it. You being a single mum who is on a low income & hard up herself, can afford to loan out £50 to somebody else, also "struggling" to buy a TV stand! You can obviously afford to write it off after this amount of time, so better to learn by a mistake, and not be so gullible to "friends" who aren't quite as hard up and true as they make out. By the way. Any chance of a £50 sub so i can go on the Razz!
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 8:10pm
Originally Posted by woofie
This seems wrong which ever way i look at it. You being a single mum who is on a low income & hard up herself, can afford to loan out £50 to somebody else, also "struggling" to buy a TV stand! You can obviously afford to write it off after this amount of time, so better to learn by a mistake, and not be so gullible to "friends" who aren't quite as hard up and true as they make out. By the way. Any chance of a £50 sub so i can go on the Razz!
That seems a pretty heartless way of looking at things when someone has gone out their way to help a friend and been sh£t all over.
Posted By: Touchstone Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 8:16pm
Originally Posted by woofie
This seems wrong which ever way i look at it. You being a single mum who is on a low income & hard up herself, can afford to loan out £50 to somebody else, also "struggling" to buy a TV stand! You can obviously afford to write it off after this amount of time, so better to learn by a mistake, and not be so gullible to "friends" who aren't quite as hard up and true as they make out. By the way. Any chance of a £50 sub so i can go on the Razz!


Prat!
Posted By: Sanchez Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 8:27pm
Id forget about it, clearly she has done you a favour by showing u what a really good friend she was for the small fee of £50....it could have been alot worse. We all get taken for mugs in life, best you learn now rather than later for alot more money smile
Posted By: Silverback Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 9:19pm
Don't forget to make sure everyone knows what has happened, cut off her future revenue supply, ensure others don't get taken.
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 9:20pm
Unfortunately i cant afford to write it off. The money I lent her was out of my child tax credits which is technically my baby's money. I must point out that she is also a single mum with 2 children but she gets double the money I get. I am having to borrow money off my parents to buy things like nappies at the moment which is really getting me down that I can't even afford the simple things which my baby needs.
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 9:23pm
Originally Posted by Silverback
Don't forget to make sure everyone knows what has happened, cut of her future revenue supply, ensure others don't get taken.


Her family all know what has happened but say they will not get involved. All my friends know what has happened and some of my family. And the way she screamed at me outside her house the day she threw all my stuff outside in the garden when I was on my way to pick it up (including my laptop) i'm sure some of the neighbours will have picked up on it too.
Posted By: Sanchez Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 9:52pm
Originally Posted by jen8505
Originally Posted by Silverback
Don't forget to make sure everyone knows what has happened, cut of her future revenue supply, ensure others don't get taken.


Her family all know what has happened but say they will not get involved. All my friends know what has happened and some of my family. And the way she screamed at me outside her house the day she threw all my stuff outside in the garden when I was on my way to pick it up (including my laptop) i'm sure some of the neighbours will have picked up on it too.


Just out of interest what are her reasons for not wanting to pay you back?
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 9:58pm
Why was the 'tv stand' vital?
Posted By: Wiggi77 Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 10:01pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Why was the 'tv stand' vital?


Probably to put the 50" led 3D hd tv on
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 10:04pm
Its morally wrong how your so called friend treated you, Jen.
Posted By: SilentReader Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 10:06pm
The part I'm confused about if this person is on more money because they have one more child whats that got to do with lending someone money but if you have a lower income there wouldn't be any spear money to lend out as you say it's out the kids tax credits and you need nappies etc so it's to important to and why did they have to lend it for a tv stand isn't important like food, gas nappies et that person souns selfish, only thing I can say no receipt of a loan agreement nothing can be done, motto of this story is you don't lend money out unless it's immediatle family
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: money lent - advice needed - 23rd Sep 2011 10:18pm
Hello Jen8508 I say Karma, June
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 12:11am
She got dumped on the morning of her wedding and he was taking the tv and stand so I lent her the money for a new stand so she could put the tv from the bedroom downstairs for the kids. She has no reasons for not paying me back the money she owes. She tried saying I owed her money but backed down very quickly on that one after I told her I'd paid the money I owed her months before in front of her parents.
Posted By: Sanchez Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 10:54am
All very odd.
Posted By: Spritey_Nikki Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 11:16am
Jen,

First things first...dont ever lend money to anyone again, even be wary about your immediate family too. Once burned is enough.

Secondly, I understand that your a single mum and struggling, however your possibly on more money (including rent paid for etc) than most working people on this site that have children (assuming you dont work, if you do my apologies)...I don't mean to sound horrible, but these are my views...

Personally if it's been 8 weeks and she is showing no signs of paying you back...cut your losses and move on. If your on benefits, go and get yourself a crisis loan..they take it out of your benefits each lot of money and you dont even realise they are taking it.

Your friend obviously isn't a friend...who needs enemies when you have friends like that. Move on chick, else your going to make yourself very unhappy.

I hope it all works out for you.

Posted By: Softy_Southerner Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 11:38am
Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
Jen,

First things first...dont ever lend money to anyone again, even be wary about your immediate family too. Once burned is enough.

Secondly, I understand that your a single mum and struggling, however your possibly on more money (including rent paid for etc) than most working people on this site that have children (assuming you dont work, if you do my apologies)...I don't mean to sound horrible, but these are my views...

Personally if it's been 8 weeks and she is showing no signs of paying you back...cut your losses and move on. If your on benefits, go and get yourself a crisis loan..they take it out of your benefits each lot of money and you dont even realise they are taking it.

Your friend obviously isn't a friend...who needs enemies when you have friends like that. Move on chick, else your going to make yourself very unhappy.

I hope it all works out for you.



Harsh but fair xxxx
Posted By: jen8505 Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 8:16pm
No I'm not working at the minute as I'm looking after my baby and I don't get maternity pay from my job as I was working as a supply teacher for an agency which lost the contract with the wirral.
Posted By: ex0__ Re: money lent - advice needed - 24th Sep 2011 8:49pm
Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
First things first...dont ever lend money to anyone again, even be wary about your immediate family too. Once burned is enough.


Overreacting much? Well I guess we know someone pissed you off in the past.

Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
Personally if it's been 8 weeks and she is showing no signs of paying you back...cut your losses and move on.


This. Forget about it, move on. If you gifted it to her, and you have no proof that you didn't, you're SOL.
Posted By: AlexB Re: money lent - advice needed - 26th Sep 2011 8:50am
If you lend a friend £20 and never see them again then it's the best £20 you ever spent.
Posted By: gypsyjune Re: money lent - advice needed - 26th Sep 2011 6:18pm
Yes that`s the best answer
Posted By: Sanchez Re: money lent - advice needed - 26th Sep 2011 8:30pm
Originally Posted by AlexB
If you lend a friend £20 and never see them again then it's the best £20 you ever spent.


Stealing my thunder wink
Posted By: paxvobiscum Re: money lent - advice needed - 29th Sep 2011 2:56pm
Originally Posted by Spritey_Nikki
Jen,

First things first...dont ever lend money to anyone again, even be wary about your immediate family too. Once burned is enough.

Personally if it's been 8 weeks and she is showing no signs of paying you back...cut your losses and move on. If your on benefits, go and get yourself a crisis loan..they take it out of your benefits each lot of money and you dont even realise they are taking it.

Your friend obviously isn't a friend...who needs enemies when you have friends like that. Move on chick, else your going to make yourself very unhappy.

I hope it all works out for you.



Yes Jen, Nikki is right. Some people will never pay you back.When I was eighteen, I paid a friend's air fare to Ireland and never got paid back despite alot of effort. My dad said he was sorry it had happened, but it was a good lesson in life and to never lend money again.
There is much wisdom in the saying' Never a borrower or a lender be'.

Yes, I have given money to people, sometimes as a gift, sometimes in the hope they will pay me back, but never thinking or relying on the return of the money.

If bad things happen to me I have learn't to move on as peace of mind is one of the most important things in life.

Have been a single parent myself without money in my pocket and it's hard, so I wish you all the best and a really happy future.
You find out whom you can trust, and also those who cruise through life just using other people.
Sometimes it is a question of discernment and trouble is avoided but so often you get taken for a ride and it hurts.
Perhaps with me they see the word 'mug' written on my forehead, but sometimes you are the one who has to stand in the gap.
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