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Posted By: ponytail Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 5:10pm
Does anyone know the law regarding parkers who consistently park right outside your door. I mean every chance they have even though there are spaces in the street. Also for weeks on end - I thought they had abandoned their car. It just means we cannot get the car near the house for cleaning it, and carrying the shopping at least 10 houses away. We feel like we are being the nuisance when we take someone else's space outside their house as we cannot park outside ours. We even had to park in the next street recently a few times. They parked solid for 2 months some time ago. I understand the highway is public and they have a right to park anywhere in the street but, what determines a 'nuisance'? Any advice?
Posted By: peodude Re: Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 5:18pm
Not a thing you can do about it. As long as it is taxed, MOT'ed and insured, then they can park wherever they want for as long as they want, barring any parking restrictions, of course.

A car parked outside your house is not a nuisance.
Posted By: kamikazi Re: Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 5:41pm
I had this problem in my last house and it is really annoying, unfortunately there is little legally you can do, stick a note on the windscreen?

K
Posted By: Toffeenose Re: Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 5:49pm
I live at the bottom of a cul de sac , and accept that parking outside the house is not always possible , but what really does my head in is , when some of the people in my avenue , whom have 2 & 3 cars at their house , try and cram them in leaving no room for anyone else , ie , me , with our 1 car .
Posted By: DavidB Re: Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 6:11pm
Originally Posted by peodude
A car parked outside your house is not a nuisance.


It is! But there is nothing you can do about it really.
Posted By: Toffeenose Re: Nuisance Parkers - 17th Jan 2011 7:22pm
Originally Posted by DavidB
Originally Posted by peodude
A car parked outside your house is not a nuisance.


It is! But there is nothing you can do about it really.
i agree , it a nuisance , but i get what you mean
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 9:57am
My girlfriends Mum lives in a permit road not far from Liscard.

Now what pisses me off to the extreme is when these 3 car families park them ALL on the road and leave their driveway empty!

Whenever I go round there, I always park over their driveway as there is never anywhere else to park.
Posted By: AR_One Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 10:17am
Unless there's a parking restriction on the road (i.e. residents permits) there's nothing that you can do about a car with valid road tax and insurance parking outside your house.

In the past some sort of understanding would of developed between neighbours about this sort of thing but now that there's loads more cars on the road it gets harder and harder to keep reasonable and it only takes one person to be selfish and the whole thing gos wrong.

It's not limited to old houses eiher, our house was new in 2007 and they've got garages but they're too small to get a can in and still get out of it so everyone parks in the road!
Posted By: bushnut Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 12:57pm
You now know why properties with off-road parking cost more than those without. The roads are PUBLIC roads, not private roads. Although I do understand your frustration, there is absolutely nothing you can do legally.

Have you tried having a conversation with your neighbours?
Posted By: BandyCoot Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 1:00pm
It's the dangerous parkers that get me, right up on the junction so that you can't see around the vehicles to see what's coming, just so they don't have to walk a few extra yards. Then on top of that they ditch their crap out of the car outside someone elses house (not mine fortunately). Most of it is a case of people just being selfish and not caring about anyone else. Parking cars in a garage? that's a novelty.
Posted By: bert1 Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 1:07pm
The junction ones gets me as well, inconsiderate pricks, i thought there was a law about how near to a corner one could park.
Posted By: StuyMac Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 1:14pm
Slash their tyres devil
Posted By: polo_phil Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 1:52pm
There's some inconsiderate people who park on my road during the day to go to work/shops. Parking over peoples drives. Leaving very very tight gaps...
Fortunately I have a driveway, a bull bar and mountains of torque...
Posted By: Toffeenose Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 2:54pm
Originally Posted by bert1
The junction ones gets me as well, inconsiderate pricks, i thought there was a law about how near to a corner one could park.
probably up there with the law about parking half on half off the pavement!!!
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 3:33pm
Originally Posted by Alex85
My girlfriends Mum lives in a permit road not far from Liscard.

Now what pisses me off to the extreme is when these 3 car families park them ALL on the road and leave their driveway empty!

Whenever I go round there, I always park over their driveway as there is never anywhere else to park.

Ya can't get 3 permits as far as I am aware so one car might have a copy or no permit or borrowing one from another neighbour, all fineable cases.
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Nuisance Parkers - 18th Jan 2011 3:41pm
Originally Posted by Alex85
My girlfriends Mum lives in a permit road not far from Liscard.

Now what pisses me off to the extreme is when these 3 car families park them ALL on the road and leave their driveway empty!

Whenever I go round there, I always park over their driveway as there is never anywhere else to park.


Park on there drive way, pop a letter in the letter box thanking them for letting you use the drive way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Nuisance Parkers - 19th Jan 2011 10:28am
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by Alex85
My girlfriends Mum lives in a permit road not far from Liscard.

Now what pisses me off to the extreme is when these 3 car families park them ALL on the road and leave their driveway empty!

Whenever I go round there, I always park over their driveway as there is never anywhere else to park.

Ya can't get 3 permits as far as I am aware so one car might have a copy or no permit or borrowing one from another neighbour, all fineable cases.


You can as long as the cars and drivers live there.
Posted By: kazza Re: Nuisance Parkers - 19th Jan 2011 10:48am
ohh i live near lookers who complain about the black bags in the garden hah but they park outside my drive way every day ?? ok i havent got a car but when i need to move things from my house they are alway in my way ahhh. leave me alone lookers and i will not complain about your cars .
Posted By: ponytail Re: Nuisance Parkers - 19th Jan 2011 7:39pm
If the car has a legal tax disc but the engine has been faulty over a year now - if they failed their MOT then how can we check to see if it roadworthy or not. If it is not roadworthy then perhaps something can be done. PERHAPS THEY ARE DRIVING ILLEGALLY. How can I find out if they have a current MOT?
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Nuisance Parkers - 20th Jan 2011 8:54am
You can find out if they have insurance (your not supposed to though unless its your own car!) at www.askmid.com - it is a criminal offence to keep a car on a public road without insurance, indeed I recieved a letter from my insurance company last month informing me they are not bringing a new constant insurance system into force, whereby people with cars that are not SORN, but uninsured, will now get a warning and then a fine if they do not sorn the car - which seems quite fair to me.

The only way to find out whether they have a valid MOT is with the V5 or current MOT test number.

You can find out if the car is taxed at www.direct.gov.uk - but iirc, they actually need to be displaying the tax disc anyway, otherwise again, its an offence not to - regardless of whether or not the car is on the tax database - I know when I have renewed my car tax online in the past, they give you a 5 day grace period in which you are permitted to use the car without displaying a valid tax disc, whilst it arrives in the post - after which, if it has not arrived, you are required to cease using the car until it does arrive.
Posted By: peodude Re: Nuisance Parkers - 20th Jan 2011 10:23am
Originally Posted by summer01
the only way is a disability bay but your not diabled .


Pointless again i'm afraid, the single disabled bays that are marked on resident roads are just advisory and unenforceable by law.

Originally Posted by MattLFC
it is a criminal offence to keep a car on a public road without insurance, indeed I recieved a letter from my insurance company last month informing me they are not bringing a new constant insurance system into force, whereby people with cars that are not SORN, but uninsured, will now get a warning and then a fine if they do not sorn the car - which seems quite fair to me.


That is a new government policy (from Labour) not just your insurance company. Many 2 car owners, are not happy about this, specially those with summer convertibles and campers, they have to either tax them all year, or go through the hassle of unsorning and sorning every summer, along with the rigmarole of getting a refund on the remaining tax.
Posted By: MattLFC Re: Nuisance Parkers - 20th Jan 2011 10:46am
Originally Posted by peodude
That is a new government policy (from Labour) not just your insurance company. Many 2 car owners, are not happy about this, specially those with summer convertibles and campers, they have to either tax them all year, or go through the hassle of unsorning and sorning every summer, along with the rigmarole of getting a refund on the remaining tax.

I know it is a government policy, the insurance company were just letting me know - an insurance company could'nt just go around fining people with uninsured cars could they lol.

The problem you have is many people still have unisured cars - indeed I have first hand experience of the system causing people hassle, Quinn Direct's system knocked my car off for 3 days last month, and sods law, during this time I was pulled on a Xmas drink driving campaign. Whilst I was zero on the meter lol, the standard insurance check they do when they pull you called me up as uninsured, and though at first the PC was satisfied the car was insured after speaking to the MIB (my own bloody fault as I didnt have the certificate in the car), and was writing out a producer, her jobsworth mate decided the vehicle should be seized, causing me hassle and cost.

At the end of the day, the plod can only go on the information they are given, and ive pretty much forgotten about it now, but I can see their point of view, if I had been driving without insurance, then I shouldnt have been on the road, and there are many people who are driving without insurance, knowingly, and are prepared to take the risk because the chances of them getting caught (because they have to be pulled to be caught until now, whereas now they will get a fine and eventually the car siezed if the car is uninsured for a significant time - though I await to see the bloody loopholes solicitors tears out of it lol) is still pretty low. So im all for this new system. I do hope it takes some plod off the roads and back to real policing though, you see plenty of people getting pulled, mostly random stop-checks etc, but very rarely see a police officer on the beat, helping to prevent ASB, which is a much more serious and damaging crime imho - though I guess that would mean the plod actually getting off their arses and confrontting yobs, and half of the plod are either pansies or fat lazy slobs, who have been in a secure job too long with little or no pressure to perform, so long as they can pull a few people in cars every day.
Posted By: reddragon Re: Nuisance Parkers - 21st Jan 2011 9:34am
we don't really see R E A L plod on the beat round Bromborough only plactic ones (c.p.s.o.)
Posted By: MrPhil Re: Nuisance Parkers - 21st Jan 2011 1:43pm
Originally Posted by reddragon
we don't really see R E A L plod on the beat round Bromborough only plactic ones (c.p.s.o.)


You do of a night time.
Posted By: 1971efc Re: Nuisance Parkers - 11th May 2011 8:03pm
if its the same car time and time again and there not local then let the air out there tyres every time they park there,,, they will soon get the message
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