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#999577 29th Jan 2016 11:23pm
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The binmen refused to take my grey bin because it had a pizza box in it with a left over pizza crust about 3 inches long.... leftover by my two young children. My wife asked them to wait for a minute and would remove the "food waste" once she checked the children were fine carrying on with there breakfast. She quickly went out and the binmen had just drove off. Now we have a full grey bin and numerous black bin bags with the recycle items in. Besides tipping it, what are we supposed to do? If the binmen just waited a minute this would have been resolved in an instant.... has anyone else had 'rubbish' problems like this?

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The binmen don't have time to wait while folks correctly sort their waste, it's your fault, get over it.

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Bit harsh that Lud . You know what kids are like and some of these binmen can be right jobsworths. Common sense should have prevailed. Instead of leaving ALL the bags and bin undealt with , it wouldnt have hurt them to just quickly take out the pizza box/crust and leave it for the householder to deal with after giving her a gentle warning .

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Look at most of Lud posts and you will see he likes to try to go against the grain. Yes the binmen can be a little less than helpful,if you go back as far as when they used to knock for their Christmas box you will remember they were much more helpful. (If you are old enough to go back that far smile )

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Yes but privatisation and repeatedly changing competitive contracts to reduce costs have taken their toll. The bin men don't have time to wet nurse their customers any longer.


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The pizza box must have had traces of food stuck on it.therefor it's non recycled.

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Everybody keeps saying the binmen used to do this and that, well the bins have been privatised since the 80s, remember the bin strike, they call it privatisation a product of the Thatcher government, then we had deregulation of the buses, remember the boast from Maggie, soon you will be able to jump on a bus at the bottom of your drive, well we all know how that worked out, anyhow enough of the history lesson.

When the grey bin thing started four of my neighbors had their bins left on one day, they phoned up the council and a supervisor came down in a van, he inspected the bins and said the binmen did the right thing as the bins were contaminated, he went on to explain that if on arrival at the tip the load was found to be contaminated the bin company would be charged for the disposal of that full wagon load as general waste, now there is enough information out for people to know and understand what does or does'nt go in the bin and I think there may have been more to it than just a 3 inch piece of crust, as to the binmen should have waited, why? the onus is on the householder, its not the binmens fault they would get repremanded for not doing their job properly, by the way they are not obliged to take bin bags left at the side or on top of the bin and never in the grey bin, sorry to sound pedantic, but it annoys me when people dont take responsibility and blame someone else.

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Originally Posted by casper
Everybody keeps saying the binmen used to do this and that, well the bins have been privatised since the 80s, remember the bin strike, they call it privatisation a product of the Thatcher government, then we had deregulation of the buses, remember the boast from Maggie, soon you will be able to jump on a bus at the bottom of your drive, well we all know how that worked out, anyhow enough of the history lesson.

When the grey bin thing started four of my neighbors had their bins left on one day, they phoned up the council and a supervisor came down in a van, he inspected the bins and said the binmen did the right thing as the bins were contaminated, he went on to explain that if on arrival at the tip the load was found to be contaminated the bin company would be charged for the disposal of that full wagon load as general waste, now there is enough information out for people to know and understand what does or does'nt go in the bin and I think there may have been more to it than just a 3 inch piece of crust, as to the binmen should have waited, why? the onus is on the householder, its not the binmens fault they would get repremanded for not doing their job properly, by the way they are not obliged to take bin bags left at the side or on top of the bin and never in the grey bin, sorry to sound pedantic, but it annoys me when people dont take responsibility and blame someone else.
I totally agree with you Casper.
The bin men are up at silly hours in the morning,On the bin collections.They have not got time to sort every households wheelie bins out.
Maybe be a good idea to print out a copy of what goes in what bin.
So Ludi has got a point.

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Yes, there is another point which is that leaving the bin is likely to make sure you don't make the same mistake again.

Your problem is your problem, not theirs.

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Lud may well have a point but there is no need for his get over it comment, little wonder there are only a handful of members that post when people make replies like that. He could have made his point without the nastiness.

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I completely concur with Lud said, both in sentiment and wording. The bin men just don't have time to sort everyone's rubbish, you have 2/3 bins, surely it's not difficult to sort it yourself and know that pizza crust is non-recyclable?

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Just to add on to what I wrote earlier, if the lady was out speaking to the binmen then why did'nt she take the pizza box or maybe just the crust back in with her if that was the problem? it just doesnt make sense that she would ask the binmen to wait, go back into the house and then come out again to remove the offending 3inch crust.

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Originally Posted by ludwigvan
The binmen don't have time to wait while folks correctly sort their waste, it's your fault, get over it.


Attitude!

Bin men are lazy compared to years ago.
They were 'proper' bin men.

Originally Posted by katter
The binmen refused to take my grey bin because it had a pizza box in it with a left over pizza crust about 3 inches long.... leftover by my two young children. My wife asked them to wait for a minute and would remove the "food waste" once she checked the children were fine carrying on with there breakfast. She quickly went out and the binmen had just drove off. Now we have a full grey bin and numerous black bin bags with the recycle items in. Besides tipping it, what are we supposed to do? If the binmen just waited a minute this would have been resolved in an instant.... has anyone else had 'rubbish' problems like this?


Do what we have done, buy another grey bin and another green bin.
We got sick of having to go the tip every week due to their stupid bin collection system, they do not get emptied often enough, it's pathetic.
So we bought an extra 2 bins, make them work for their money.

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Maybe she should have simply taken the pizza box out of the bin at that moment, but if the bin men should start to search all the bins for pizza boxes, empty bottles of coke, that aren't empty, margarine tubs that aren't washed, plastic milk bottles that have residue, soup tins with veg stuck to the sides, cake boxes with cream on the lid, or sauce bottles, not quite empty, for example, they might need to spend a whole lot more time at the job they so lovingly attend.

I dare say none of us are quite the perfect recycling operative that we try to pretend.

I don't wash empty coco cola bottles, I'm trying to save on the water bill. grin

Poor old Lud, always being attacked, eh?

Noticeably, all comments on here but one have been made by the male of the species, which brings me to think that they must be the ones who wear the pinnies and do the washing on a daily basis, as they are so clued up on what goes where and how . Well done girls, another job from the land of subservients passed to our equals. smile

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The way things are going at being fined at the drop of a hat,it wouldn't surprise me if eventually that folks will get fined for putting the wrong stuff in the wrong bin or not cleaning cans and bottles properly with water.
I'd like to know where the recyclable stuff ends up and who profits from it.
18 tons of plastic could be used to make a 3 bedroomed house - less for 1 and 2 bedrooms to which I suppose sections could be added to as a family needs more room

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