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A description of Parkgate from White's Directory, 1860, may give reason for Lodging houses, etc.

The 1861 census returns names the stretch facing the Dee as, The Hamlet of Moorside, still residing are Customs Officers, Fishermen, occupations relying on passage to the sea, there was a ferryboat man.

The bit that's confused me is that it seemed to build up after 1820 when the facilities were in decline (less bathing, less ships, less coal). Perhaps it just got cheaper or the build-up of Birkenhead gave it more local patrons wanting to use its facilities? Although Birkenhead people wouldn't need hotels/lodgings, the added hustle and bustle might have made it a place to be?

What is a 'Buggen' ?

You can find out here. Could be a good tour with Gavin Chappell and Tony Franks Buckley.


https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.484828111688095.1073741885.263920753778833&type=3

BWGAN (welsh) = ghost etc but can also mean a scarecrow.

Excellent,

http://monologues.co.uk/Neston/Parkgate-Route.htm

Marvellous collection, Bert.

Really interesting Bert.


Another is this: Parkgate Port is on page 9.

http://www.cheshirearchaeology.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/HTS_Arch_Assess_Neston-Parkgate.pdf

...and some more pictures on here, 198 of them! From which we can see there were still boats on the water in the 1930's.

https://www.facebook.com/neston.par...1907/522448994473705/?type=1&theater

.Parkgate Theatre 1811. In Drury Lane .

Taken from the FB page.

Printed in Holywell, that's quite a trek in those days.

Which brings me to the play his most famous 'The School for Scandal' written by Richard Brinsley Butler Sheridan. Born in Dublin in 1751.

He was the owner of the London Theatre Royal in Drury Lane, London and entered Parliament in1777.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Brinsley_Sheridan

His father Thomas Sheridan, from Dublin was for a while an actor-manager at the Smock Alley Theatre (the first Theatre Royal built in Dublin in 1662) but, following his move to England in 1758, he gave up acting and wrote several books on the subject of education and, especially the standardisation of the English language in education.

The reason I mention this is because the Sheridan's Theatre Company drowned in 1758. Obviously sailing to or from Parkgate/Dublin, but I can't find anything else on that and wondering what the connection could be. (if any)

Strange how one thing leads to another.

They had a boat.

Interesting to see on the playbill, "Favorite" spelled in what we would now consider the American way. This is not the first example I've seen of the "u" being omitted from words like this in writings of that era.

The Dublin Trader was wrecked in 1758

27 October - The ship Dublin Trader (Captain White) leaves Parkgate, Cheshire, for Dublin, and founders in the Irish Sea; she carries 70,000 Irish pounds in money and £80,000 in goods, while among the 60 passengers lost are Edward, fifth Earl of Drogheda, Theophilus Cibber (the English actor, bound for a season at the Smock Alley Theatre), and (probably) the mezzotint engraver Michael Ford.

Thomas Sheridan offered him work at the Smock Alley Theatre in Dublin. On the trip to Ireland, his ship, the Dublin Trader with about 60 passengers on board, foundered in a storm, and was wrecked on the Scottish coast. He was lost at sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophilus_Cibber

Anthony Maddox, the successful slack-wire and theatre performer who drowned on a sea voyage to Dublin in 1758 along with Theophilus Cibber.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maddox

Although only 2 suggested theatre company members, I would imagine there could well have been more amongst the passengers of 60.
Maybe it was Sheridan who started the theatre in Parkgate . Thos. Sheridan, Theophilus Cibber and his second wife Susannah, all had connections with Handel. Both Cibber and Susannah were at the Drury Lane Theatre in London, where Handel had performed. Susannah had become someone else's mistress and to escape the scandal ,she went to Ireland with Handel for the concert season.

Anyway, I doubt anyone is interested in all that, but in my mind it seems to unravel the 'how's and why's' , to a degree. There does seem to be a connection between them all and little old Parkgate.

Does anyone agree.... or not ?

We can take that as a 'NOT' .

Thanks for the thread granny. Was at a new years eve bash with some indian friends and a couple of their indian guests had moved into buggens lane.so i thought icould be the smart rrrrs laden with facts and the meaning of buggens. But they had already done their homework .... Did point them in the direction of the harp and old colliery.