Forums Forums Wirral History : Chasing the Past History Information Request History behind a walking stick.

Strange coincidence indeed granny. You dont get many of them to the sq mile!
I already emailed the museum a couple of days ago (Grosvenor) ,with the photos of the stick, but no comment back yet .

Forget the census Bert...you've already done it

According to my friend, the Faith Mission is flourishing . They just don't advertise it I suppose.

Didn't see your post Venice. Yes, I hope they do get back to you and just give them a gentle nudge if you haven't had a response from them in the next few days. They should at least, acknowledge your enquiry.

Present from Mold to M Roberts HAWT (acronym)Having A Wonderful Time.

I thought that at first and very in keeping with the era but when it was pointed out that the "HORN" part follows and makes Hawthorn I'd tend to go with the latter.

Its been hard enough find about "Hawthorn Deene", "Horn Deene" sounds unlikely

The letters go 10 12 16 could be 10 16 10 to complete the word. I would assume the stick tapers so would make more sense with more circumference to work on.Venice has already mentioned Horndean which is 2009 miles from Mold. The 2x2 matrix formula is beyond me as is squaring the circle.I think the answer is still waiting to be found and takes nothing away from what has already been suggested.

I have wondered if it has been fabricated from a table leg or similar.

Youve lost me dusty! Im hopeless with numbers . I mentioned Horndean? I did?? HOW many miles away


DD Agree, it could well be a chair leg now you mention it.

Can anyone who understands olde english letters please have another look at the Sinnon inscription on the stick and see what you think the initial are please. Ive been using John as you have to put in a given name .Dont reckon there will be many Sinnons round.

I would have thought 'I. T. Sinnon ' For some reason the name Sinnon seems to shout out American ! Shanty town American.

Even a table leg after an old pub brawl.

Really , it's best to ignore my comments from now on.

I think its "Simon"

Ascender on the "m" as there is on the final "n", no attempt at an ascender in the middle.

Simmon was a much more common surname than Simon.

I agree on "I.T." as the most likely initials.

Thanks for renewing pics granny and for your and DD's confirmation of the letters. Ill give it a go with Simon and Simmon .

To be honest, researching must be very hit and miss . I had no idea that a mixture of using middle/other christian names,randomly altered spellings of surnames ,and general bad spelling even in articles recorded in newspapers , was such a big problem.

Just look at this newspaper article from the era we've been looking at. Obviously didnt have inhouse readers in those days before it went to press.Funny, I worked for a newspaper once, and lots of silly mistakes passed via readers uncorrected , and I used to imagine it was a modern 'careless about your work' attitude that wouldnt have happened 'in the old days' Obviously a very wrong assumption!

"PULVOKD.�LODGE ANNIVERSARY.�The Earl Grosvtnor Lodge, Chester District of tbe In dependent Order of Oddrellonrs (M.U.), held its anniversary on Monday last. The members, in full regalia, walked m piocession from their lodge-room through Pultord, Lavister, and Rosset, headed by the Nmtwicb Prize Band. They then attended a special service at Pulford Church, where an appropriate sermon w_s preached by the ev, J. Williams, the rector. Dinner was afterwards partaken of at the lodge- room. Grosvenor Arms, Pulford. The fine weather drew a lurgtJ number te the Green in the evening, where dancing and other games were in- dulged in till duk. The Lodge is in a very flourishing ion."

*chortle* Typesetter should've gone to Specsavers!

Ha , you're right Greenwood! Hard to know how it could have been quite that bad because they had mirrors , so although the letters would have been set individually ,looking back to front , most compositors could read that way fluently , and till they could, mirrors were used to check work.To be fair, sometimes there was probably just no time, papers had to go to press at a set time and that was it.Putting the paper to bed they used to call it .

The above transcription is the fault of the Electronic Wizardry that scanned it, the original is not that bad, considering it's well over a hundred years old.

I've just joined this forum as I am interested in the "shrubland.jpg" attached to this thread by granny. I was born at Shrublands in 1942 and I would dearly love to have a copy of the jpg - especially if it is an image of the building. Thank you in advance.

The picture is of the end terraced house (Alexandra Terrace) on the western side of Hamilton Street, it is neither of the Shrublands nor Shrubland Villa semis. I have no idea which building(s) were the maternity home.

It does have a small amount of the corner wall and a gate post belonging to Shrubland Villa.