George Galloway having a wee chat about Syria a couple of years ago and shoving home a few truths (you also might recognise the back bencher beside him).
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
19th November 2015 a more recent opinion from George Galloway.
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just had a response email back from our MP Angela Eagle explaining why she voted for action to be taken, it goes on to explain in fair detail all the considerations and reasons why she did so, to be fair can't fault that, or her reasoning and belief, however I am not convinced that we are not getting sucked into another fiasco, utterance's from the Tory defence minister so soon after the vote that there will be a need to put boots on the ground are starting to ring alarm bells, I have no doubt that we already have special forces on the ground spotting for targets, lets hope there is no conflict with what the Russians have in place or it could become very messy.
You can't bring peace by waging war, and a conventional army is useless against terrorism.
Past conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya have demonstrated this, and Syria will go the same way. You'd think they'd learn, but politicians love wars.
Not for the first time, the government has made me feel ashamed of being British.
Shades of Blair the Warmonger and his WMD! How many times last night did Maceroon say "It's either bomb Syria or Isis blowing up the UK" totally untrue, of course. Just why is he now referring to Isis, or Isal, as he has referred to the group so far, now suddenly called Daesh by macaroon. I do know that the group has a number of alternative names: it's just the sudden switch by macaroon that interests me.
Shades of Blair the Warmonger and his WMD! How many times last night did Maceroon say "It's either bomb Syria or Isis blowing up the UK" totally untrue, of course. Just why is he now referring to Isis, or Isal, as he has referred to the group so far, now suddenly called Daesh by macaroon. I do know that the group has a number of alternative names: it's just the sudden switch by macaroon that interests me.
'Maceroon'! Lol. Heard him called many names- but that is a new one, on me!!
Good old George love his speeches even if I might not agree (but often do)
yes it was a good speech but its sad to think that decisions are made and votes cast just on the best speech. It was characteristically similar to George Bushes "they hate our freedoms"
To obtain some peace you have to kill enough of them to get them to surrender. The more you kill the less they can do but as they seem to not give a sh*te it would mean eradicating them-but at what cost to innocents.
How long did we let Germany wreak havoc before we intervened oh and then in come the Yanks. Pointing much towards the armaggedon scenario although as yet Israel keeping a low profile.
Daesh is an intentional slightly derogatory acronym invented by the media.
You know that our government is getting desperate when they come up with statements like
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Before our aircrew conducted their attacks, as is normal they used the aircraft's advanced sensors to confirm that no civilians were in the proximity of the targets, who might be placed at risk
Apparently our planes are fitted with ISIS detectors now - what total poppycock - propaganda at its insulting worst!
Another bit of drivel was that UK was being brought in for our "unique capabilities" referring to the Brimstone missile, not only has this fist mission not used our "unique" capabilities but the Brimstone missile isn't unique to the RAF, the Royal Saudi Air Force also have it - we sold them some of ours.
We were supposed to be attacking Rakka (aka Raqqa etc), which despite denials will result in civilian deaths. For the first mission they chose a target that they assumed will not cause civilian deaths - but there is no guarantee.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Here is a copy of a post I made a couple of hours ago in FB; it should answer your question.
For the people having a whinge about the RAF being involved in Syria - What you are forgetting is that the 'enemy' is intend on only two things - killing as many of us as possible, then dying themselves. They only understand one thing and negotiating with someone intend of butchery, torture and rape is a none starter. The only answer is to meet kind with kind and to annihiliate the threat. Blair should have been under arrest a long time ago for treason and using his position to make a personal fortune. Brown for robbing pensions and carrying on with Blairs open door policy and Cameron for not having the guts to close the door. Corbyn is an out and out terrorist lover, HAMAS IS and IRA are in his bed. Farage is right, was always right, and so, in the 60s was Enoch Powell. In 1919 and in 1948 Churchill also wrote about the threat we have today - but nobody listens. The planes of Russia and now the UK are not bombing innocent people, they are working on ground based intel with pin point locations. OK, some may get killed or injured and not be involved, but I bet its a very small number. Finally, IS have massacred thousands and thousands of innocent people and only recently a mass grave was found containing an entire village, slaughtered by IS. So, which is the lesser of the two evils, bomb or be bombed. I vote for the former.
Edit: Intel from on the ground within target areas is fed to the planes giving exact locations, and for a missile exact is close enough!! Also all planes carry IFF transponders, this means they are identyable to other aircraft, unless of course if you are Turkish!!
Galloway is another who is in bed with the IS and HAMAS. And lets not forget a certain speech in Tower Hamlets last year where he incited the crowd to riot, and they did, chasing bare headed ladies down the street screaming in arabic. He was not arrested, and police stood and watched. Galloway is a self ego tripper who thinks he is 'something' - sadly forum rules stop me from stating exactly what he is.
