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#959705 - 30th Aug 2015 3:14am America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order?
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Is the New World Order playing its cards to create world chaos with America now effectively preventing the defeat of ISIS.

The biggest defeats and defence against ISIS have been by the Kurds (with American support).

America's support to Turkey has resulted in Turkey carrying out 300 air raids against Kurds but only 3 air raids against ISIS.

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#959718 - 30th Aug 2015 9:32am Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Everything is corrupt and 2 faced. Period.
Saddam was funded weapons by the usa years ago. Theres a pic of him shaking high ranking gov'officials hands in 1983 on the net.

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#959719 - 30th Aug 2015 9:46am Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: svenlock68]
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Originally Posted By: svenlock68
Everything is corrupt and 2 faced. Period.
Saddam was funded weapons by the usa years ago. Theres a pic of him shaking high ranking gov'officials hands in 1983 on the net.


It was much worse than that, Saddam was being paid to do the dirty work for the Americans, things went ape when the Americans reduced the amount of money they were paying him.

I always say to ignore everything else, just watch the money.
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#959730 - 30th Aug 2015 11:09am Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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France initially made close ties with Saddam in 1970's. To read all the History and to understand is quite a task.It shows that French ministers had some personal deals going on with Saddam , but everything has been so volatile in the area, over the years , I think swapping sides and handshakes have always been about.

Turkey has only just launched it's attacks on IS, since they were attacked a couple of weeks ago. They have now given US permission to use their airbase in Incirlik. USA had requested for that many times, but Turkey didn't want to get involved. Their beef is with the PKK, but according to News reports, it's the Yazidi women and girls who are now joining up to PKK. They are the ones who were rounded up by IS from the mountains. PKK say they are fighting IS, Turkey is fighting PKK. It really does make you wonder who is actually in control of any of this. Then of course there are the PYD and the YPG. Far too complex help
What does come across is ,' don't believe any of them', because they swap sides time and time again.
I find it quite strange that Israel is surrounded by these fighting countries , and giving due consideration to the dislike that some of the middle eastern countries have towards Israel , there has not been an attack on Israel or Palestine, the same as all the Western countries and other Arab countries have had ( I don't think) Who is at the heart of it all or is that pure coincidence ?
Overall Benjamin Netanyahu has been very quiet just recently, apart from his total disapproval of the recent agreement between Iran and USA and Britain. He's happy for the rest of the world to protect Israel at whatever cost, and has a tantrum when he doesn't get what he's expecting.

DD, if you find I have made an error with any word used or in the wrong context and wish to alter it, then please feel free, although I think generally my point is understandable.


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#959731 - 30th Aug 2015 11:17am Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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i'm not sure what thehell is going on, but i'm also fairly confident the NWO or Illuminati etc don't exist.

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#959735 - 30th Aug 2015 11:58am Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Whether we like it or not, the Iraq war has given rise to all of this.

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml

"Saddam Hussein and his weapons are a direct threat to this country, to our people, and to all free people... I believe Saddam Hussein is a threat to the American people. I believe he's a threat to the neighborhood in which he lives. And I've got good evidence to believe that. He has weapons of mass destruction... The American people know that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction."

These claims were untrue. As the world now knows, Iraq had no dangerous "weapons of mass destruction," and posed no threat to the US. Moreover, alarmist suggestions that the Baghdad regime was working with the al-Qaeda terror network likewise proved to be without foundation.

So if the official reasons given for the war were untrue, why did the United States attack Iraq?

Whatever the secondary reasons for the war, the crucial factor in President Bush's decision to attack was to help Israel. With support from Israel and America's Jewish-Zionist lobby, and prodded by Jewish "neo-conservatives" holding high-level positions in his administration, President Bush - who was already fervently committed to Israel - resolved to invade and subdue one of Israel's chief regional enemies.

This is so widely understood in Washington that US Senator Ernest Hollings was moved in May 2004 to acknowledge that the US invaded Iraq "to secure Israel," and "everybody" knows it. He also identified three of the influential pro-Israel Jews in Washington who played an important role in prodding the US into war: Richard Perle, chair of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board; Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary; and Charles Krauthammer, columnist and author
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#959742 - 30th Aug 2015 1:03pm Re: America/Turkey/Kurds/ISIS/New World Order? [Re: j_demo]
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Originally Posted By: j_demo
i'm not sure what thehell is going on, but i'm also fairly confident the NWO or Illuminati etc don't exist.
the nwo certainly does exist but maybe not as perceived. It can simply be seen as a shifting of economic political military powers a change in the pecking order.alluded to by bush even gordon brown mentioned it at a business conference .one might wonder how or who or what is behind the shifting order of things.some think it
s dark spiritual forces others think illuminati or bilderberg group or shadow governments.

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