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#957881 - 12th Aug 2015 2:41pm Appalling service
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Having just received a crumpled letter (no envelope) from Wirral Council, about changes to the speed limit on Barnston Road. All comments can be responded to via email. No contact telephone number on the letter. So, I telephoned them to say that not all the elderly residents on Barnston Road, would have a computer, and therefore would be unable to make their opinions know. Various sections visited whilst on the end of the phone. Press button this and press button that etc.If anyone wishes to make a comment to the council regarding any issues, they can go to any library where they will get assistance.
Bad, bad, bad service. After waiting 10mins, I still had not been connected to any human voice to which I was hoping to speak, the music was driving me mad and that woman who sounds as if she's just about to drop off to sleep continues to pulsate down your ear. Plus, for myself the website given on the letter allowing us to make any comments, is not working either.

I suppose it all a way of securing the changes they wish to make and spending the money they don't have without any hullabaloo. Well, I haven't finished yet !
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#957884 - 12th Aug 2015 3:14pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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#957885 - 12th Aug 2015 3:50pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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Yes, I have. If the system is not in place to deal with us, then the next option is to contact our MP. and let them deal with it. So that is what I have done.

It's a ridiculous idea. Reducing Barnston road from 40mph to 30mph will result in a backlog of traffic due to the Arrowe Park roundabout having three exits, traffic coming along past Landican cemetery have 3 set of lights on that stretch now and once getting to Thingwall roundabout the stretch of traffic backwards is a bloody nightmare at times.
Once on Barnston Road, 40 mph will allow people to cross as there is enough space between the traffic, if it's reduced to 30mph it will result in a constant stream passing along without any opportunity to cross over. I suppose they will then spend more money (they haven't got ) on installing traffic lights at various points thus creating more car fumes and pollution which I thought we were supposed to be reducing, not increasing.
This is all down to one 'wanna be' person who came knocking on doors at the run up to the election. Haven't seen him before or since and he lives elsewhere. Yeh ! He's got his name in lights for the wrong reason. Why try and fix something that isn't broken. 3 accidents on the stretch in question in the last 15 years, and 2 of those were drunk.
As you can probably tell, the blood pressure must be soaring today.
We wait and see what response I get from our MP. Margaret Greenwood.
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#957898 - 12th Aug 2015 8:20pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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oh dear Granny--you will be resorting to the coffee and cream cake de-stressing programme like me. Agh maybe that's why so many coffee shops have opened up to deal with all of us jibbering idiots..

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#957942 - 12th Aug 2015 10:21pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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I remember the cow crossing lights getting installed on Barnston Road, saw them get used a grand total of once. Loads of cost and noise about them needing to be installed.

No speed limit changes are going to stop the plethora of drunk and/or speeding drivers going through the hedges, they even had to fill in a large ditch behind the hedges to reduce the risk of death. Garden walls seemed to be the target of choice in later years.

The speed limit reduction towards the Heswall end was brought on by one boy being slightly knocked by a car because he walked on the road when the car was coming - that was many moons ago.
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#958563 - 17th Aug 2015 10:22pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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after reading this post I honestly think Granny is complaining about nothing and is more of a nimby.

while I don't defend the council for other matters, but lets be honest in this day and age most folk have the internet in one way or another and if they don't and really want to complain they will find away, Granny you seem to have the internet, maybe let the local's logon to your machine to register their complaint, but lets be fair a reduction in 10mph to save lives makes sense, and I welcome that on any public road any were.



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#958567 - 17th Aug 2015 10:49pm Re: Appalling service [Re: SilentReader]
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#958568 - 17th Aug 2015 11:22pm Re: Appalling service [Re: SilentReader]
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Mr Silentreader, as you would appear to come from Wallasey you don't have a clue about what you spout.

If the council want to contribute anything, then put a crossing up so the elderly can cross to the bus stops. That would be far more effective. Traffic seldom speeds along this road, and 30mph will not stop those who do. In fact it will probably lead to more speeding.
Ironically, the place where the speed limit is already 30mph has many an accident or near misses. Explain that, Mr clever clogs.

No deaths on the stretch of road in question in 15 years so it's impossible to reduce them.

I suggest from your post, that you are a member of our council and I will not tell you why I think that, you simply made a comment that was a give away. I too worked for a council.

You should be more careful.
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#958571 - 17th Aug 2015 11:35pm Re: Appalling service [Re: snowshoes]
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#958572 - 17th Aug 2015 11:38pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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OMG Granny the ULTIMATE insult calling poor old Silentreader a COUNCILOR strong insults indeed! LOL
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#958573 - 17th Aug 2015 11:50pm Re: Appalling service [Re: ianbx1]
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OMG Granny the ULTIMATE insult calling poor old Silentreader a COUNCILOR strong insults indeed! LOL


No, I'll re-phrase that, to an 'employee of our council'. Even so, if I made comments about where he lived and how his road should be laid out , he'd probably tell me to mind my own business as I have no experience of what goes on there. So the same applies grin
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#958743 - 20th Aug 2015 8:03am Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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I don't live in Barnston but I use the road in question daily. Are you suggesting I have no experience of what goes on there?

Life's too short Granny, there's more important things to waste your time and effort on than a reduction in a speed limit and not even a big reduction.

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#958771 - 20th Aug 2015 12:19pm Re: Appalling service [Re: Slinky]
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Originally Posted By: Slinky
I don't live in Barnston but I use the road in question daily. Are you suggesting I have no experience of what goes on there?

Life's too short Granny, there's more important things to waste your time and effort on than a reduction in a speed limit and not even a big reduction.


The reduction in speed will not affect myself, but do you know how many elderly people live on Barnston Road, now without a voice due to the new procedures within the council, where they don't want people telephoning them . You may drive along Barston Road on a daily basis but do you know how many cross to walk their dogs down the lanes for example - on a daily basis. ???? Not simply the residents of Barnston Road, but those who live off Sparks Lane, Pensby Road, and all surrounding areas in the locality.

If you have no real concern for those who surround you, then you live a very sad life.


Edited by granny (20th Aug 2015 12:22pm)
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#958773 - 20th Aug 2015 12:37pm Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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Not forgetting the horses and riders who come up from Thingwall Lane.
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#984607 - 22nd Sep 2015 5:34am Re: Appalling service [Re: granny]
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Have to agree - the traffic 'calming' measures along Arrowe Park road (in between Woodchurch and Thingwall Corner) have caused traffic issues not quelled them - with the reduction in speed to around 30mph where the limit is 40mph - causing the deadheads to speed even more when the road straightens... a number of accidents including a fatal - at the Warrens Lights have occurred in the intervening period since introduction....so not much safety value

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