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#957386 - 6th Aug 2015 10:39am Undercover benefit cheats *****
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Recorded this the other night just watched it. GRRRH! Steam coming out my ears!!!

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#957387 - 6th Aug 2015 10:42am Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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You got a video link of this Cools?

Or will they be a repeat of the programme?

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#957388 - 6th Aug 2015 10:47am Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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No sorry Snowy ,you're talking to me now. Video link eh....way beyond my capabilities that. It is on next week , another lot of cheats. It's channel 5 you may have guessed that allready. I know people will say oh they do sensationalism TV but we all know that what they are reporting goes on, makes me so mad!!

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#957395 - 6th Aug 2015 12:02pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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This one Cools?
I got it from utube.
Yep this sort of thing does go on.

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#957406 - 6th Aug 2015 12:30pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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Yep that's the one Snowy X

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#957410 - 6th Aug 2015 1:05pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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In every bit of life there are cheats, in reality the benefit cheats cost us very little, but the government like to make a big noise about it and its cheap News for the media to go to town on.

The government use it to "clamp down" which normally means cutting benefits for genuine claimants.
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#957417 - 6th Aug 2015 2:37pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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Is the government responsible for our weather DD, they seem to get the blame for everything else.

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#957422 - 6th Aug 2015 6:29pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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#957424 - 6th Aug 2015 6:37pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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It winds me up, they always seem to point the finger at Merseyside.

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#957425 - 6th Aug 2015 6:56pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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The 100,000000 tax payers money, could go to the NHS couldn't it ? Help stop the moaners about that.

We are talking benefit CHEATS, and not simply benefits or what the governments do or don't do.

Low life !





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#957430 - 6th Aug 2015 7:44pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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The cheating might not be as widespread as the programme would have you believe (but noting that it was the cheats themselves that were saying how all their contemporaries were 'at' it) , but that doesnt mean it should be ignored -- You ignore/dismiss it as irrelevant , and surely it then becomes more and more 'acceptable' so more perhaps previously reticent folk 'have a go' and so on. The swindled amounts although not huge, all add up, and I think its right that these people are exposed .

Having said that, Im more fuming about the bigger fish who are swindling the country - the companies evading taxes ,claiming grants wrongly etc - the big scale stuff. Id love major resources be put into trying to stop this as this really would be serious money which could be redirected to NHS or whatever . As the Govt trying to catch the little fish is probably not cost effective, Im quite happy for TV programs to play their part in exposing them , regardless of their motives . Im all for making cheats feel more and more uncomfortable about being watched, found out, caught. Bring it on.

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#957441 - 6th Aug 2015 9:24pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
The 100,000000 tax payers money, could go to the NHS couldn't it ? Help stop the moaners about that.

We are talking benefit CHEATS, and not simply benefits or what the governments do or don't do.

Low life ! withthat.




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#957444 - 6th Aug 2015 9:45pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: cools]
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Catch 22. Arrest them shove em in jail and it will cost the taxpayer far more per week than the benefits they are cheating.

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#957446 - 6th Aug 2015 9:50pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: fish5133]
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Catch 22. Arrest them shove em in jail and it will cost the taxpayer far more per week than the benefits they are cheating.


Maybe, but it would feel good. grin
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#957447 - 6th Aug 2015 9:56pm Re: Undercover benefit cheats [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
The 100,000000 tax payers money, could go to the NHS couldn't it ? Help stop the moaners about that.

We are talking benefit CHEATS, and not simply benefits or what the governments do or don't do.

Low life !


It doesn't work like that, to attempt to find these cheats and prosecute them would cost more than 100m so we would lose money not gain it, if you imprisoned them it would cost even more!

100m represents 0.06% of the welfare budget a level of unaccounted loss that even the most finicky of banks would be proud of. I believe the figure for departmental mistakes in welfare payments is over 50 times that figure.
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