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#948280 - 26th May 2015 6:24pm St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead
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An old friend (aged 88 years) is interested in this church. Does anybody know anything about it.Where was it situated and when was it demolished.
Did it have a grave yard if so what happened to bodies when church was demolished.
I would appreciate any info re this church to pass on to my friend.
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#948284 - 26th May 2015 7:00pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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hi ive never hear of one in conway st there was a church ..were thomson's mission an st andrews square its more a car wagon loading bay now

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#948287 - 26th May 2015 7:14pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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The old Scottish Presbyterian church was on Conway Street just down from the junction with Hemingford Street. St Andrew's Square flats were alongside. The graveyard was there certainly until the mid-1970s, but I'm not sure if the church had been demolished earlier. I'm sure Wikiwirral members will come up with plenty of information about it.

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#948288 - 26th May 2015 7:16pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: patsylodo]
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#948289 - 26th May 2015 7:25pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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Thanks everybody.
Bert1 that is marvelous thanks so much.

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#948290 - 26th May 2015 7:44pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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On a 1950s map and after demolishment before bus station built


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#948296 - 26th May 2015 8:15pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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This photo was taken in 1967 during demolition to make way for the Conway Street flyover. The Saint Andrews Church graveyard is out of shot, but it was over the road towards the extreme bottom right of the picture.


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#948315 - 26th May 2015 9:24pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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St Andrew's Presbyterian Church (Scottish)

Built in 1839, opened in 1840, demolished in 1967, had an attached school which closed in 1936.

Building of stone in the Gothic style, with an embattled nave and two pinnacles over the doorway

It isn't recoded as having a graveyard but a number of people have disputed this and I came across a statement that "a small portion of the ground attached was formerly used as a burying ground"
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#948316 - 26th May 2015 9:27pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: derekdwc]
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Thank you great help.It is wonderful to have all this info to tell my friend about. He will be so pleased.


Edited by rossie (26th May 2015 9:29pm)

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#948317 - 26th May 2015 9:41pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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Forgot to include that it sat 800 people.
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#948319 - 26th May 2015 9:56pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: diggingdeeper]
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In 1862 because of the size of the congregation, the chapel was closed for a short period of time while side galleries were added.

I'm sure as a small child I remember headstones at that church, Wirral Archives or the National Archives will most certainly have records of burials there.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2602681


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#948336 - 27th May 2015 7:24am Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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Just a thought - you can see it in this picture on the 'Britain from Above' website - Clicky
If you register, you can then zoom in and see the church quite clearly (it's just to left of centre).
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#948356 - 27th May 2015 1:25pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: diggingdeeper]
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The large scale 1875 OS plan clearly shows the area that was designated as the graveyard.


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#948359 - 27th May 2015 2:46pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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The churchyard looks built on, when was the church built I thought after 1843 all burials went to the municipal cemetery apart from some church burials.

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#948375 - 27th May 2015 5:50pm Re: St Andrews Church Conway St Birkenhead [Re: rossie]
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Municipal Cemeteries were cheaper and graveyards invariably had restrictions on who could be buried.

Some graves from graveyards were moved to vacate land.

In England, graveyard usually means a burial ground attached to a church whereas a cemetery isn't.

I'm wondering if this graveyard belonged to St Andrew's and whether it might have existed before the church. It seems unusually detached on the map and the word's "burial ground" elsewhere instead of graveyard makes me wonder.
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