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#944757 - 1st May 2015 1:40am possible cave bottom of victoria road
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hi not posted before hope im where i should be...anyway was talking with my bloke the other day about caves tunnels etc he was telling me about the wormhole caves and the bidston tunnels he has been down both of them....anyway it turns out he fancys himself as a self styled cave guru haha...no(seriously)he tells me that he believes there is a cave under victoria gardens new brighton on the site of the new flats....he takes me down there and showed me the fenced off building site he then pointed to an old 'hut'which one side was made up of the original red brick wall that used to run along virginia road and said that he thought there was a cave underneath this single storey building.strangely it was smothered with scaffolding (this was 2 days ago)since then the scaffold has been taken down but he is adamant that there is some kind of cave under there....must admit it is a bit strange the way that section of wall has been preserved and at the time of writing still exists....does anybody know anything of this?

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#944759 - 1st May 2015 2:14am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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Almost exactly half-way between Balmoral Road and Victoria Parade?
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#944760 - 1st May 2015 2:21am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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exactly there..... do you know anything of this as my bloke is a bit militant and hes banging on about the council saying nothing and covering them up for another hundred years

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#944785 - 1st May 2015 10:09am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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#944788 - 1st May 2015 10:19am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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#944789 - 1st May 2015 11:04am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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I vaguely remember visiting what must have been the Wormhole with a group, I think it might have been the youth club. The entrance was in someone's back garden.

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#944793 - 1st May 2015 11:39am Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: Greenwood]
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I vaguely remember visiting what must have been the Wormhole with a group, I think it might have been the youth club. The entrance was in someone's back garden.


That's in the back garden of a house in Wellington Road, overlooking the Red Noses.

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#944801 - 1st May 2015 12:42pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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Treasure ... where is the treasure ????

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#944812 - 1st May 2015 2:43pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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I guess there is a chance that it is another entrance to the Palace Amusement tunnels, it would be beyond belief that tunnels that size would only have one entrance, but I didn't think they headed in that direction.

But it may simply be something to do with utilities, if it had just been another isolated tunnel it would have been capped instead of rehashing the building that was over the length of that wall.
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#944814 - 1st May 2015 3:13pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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Noo they're the wormholes these are the other end my fella said he'd seen a sketch of the cave entrance around 1830 he recons its bang on where that hut is

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#944816 - 1st May 2015 4:02pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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Think the foundations for the new flats at the bottom of Victoria Road took some sorting, I heard they pumped many tonnes of concrete in which kept dissapearing, putting the project back and the costs up.

Maybe they have been filled in for good?

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#944819 - 1st May 2015 4:29pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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There were buildings where the flats are getting built (the infamous Ham & Eggs Parade) but they were built on reclaimed land and they probably didn't have the ten year settling time for the land like we do these days. They were demolished around 1907.
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#944825 - 1st May 2015 4:35pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
There were buildings where the flats are getting built (the infamous Ham & Eggs Parade) but they were built on reclaimed land and they probably didn't have the ten year settling time for the land like we do these days. They were demolished around 1907.


And don't forget the 'Devil's Nest'...

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#944832 - 1st May 2015 5:02pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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it just seems strange that the wall was demolished ions ago and that part has been kept ive looked over the very secure fence and it seems the foundations have been poured around this 'hut'also the ground is far lower on site,my bloke recons it goes under the road which is solid sandstone in the direction balmoral road

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#944839 - 1st May 2015 6:43pm Re: possible cave bottom of victoria road [Re: willow]
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do you mean THIS red-bricked structure??? i'm sure there's not much in there, the mini golf course used to be up there and if i remember rightly the kiosk where you paid and got clubs was in them, i THINK they're not much more than storage and the like rather than entrances to some caves...

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