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#939154 - 2nd Apr 2015 12:31am Woodchurch 'Stone'
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Having taken a look at a thread on Woodchurch I noticed on one of Bert's excellent map extracts (a link to which is added) reference to a 'stone' http://anony.ws/image/DOeY Curious indeed, it looks like it's sited in Arrowe Park?

Is this the stone in question? http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2949643


Anyone have more information on that item? smile


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#939163 - 2nd Apr 2015 6:49am Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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There's a few in the area, (maps below)

There doesn't appear to be any pattern to them that might suggest religious or cult, etc. Perhaps they are just boundary or land markers.

Map 2, stones marked red, sorry if I've missed any.


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#939204 - 2nd Apr 2015 12:32pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Hi Bert, thanks for sharing, what curiosities they appear, I have read such to be either former gate-posts or linked to boundaries, be interested to see any maps that clearly links the position of such stones to old field boundaries. Meanwhile I came across this tantalizing paper, which poses the question 'Wirral's Stone Circles, Or Were They?' http://www.charlesclosesociety.org/files/Issue95page47.pdf

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#939225 - 2nd Apr 2015 12:57pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Stone and gatepost positions are made much more complicated by farmers moving them to use them as cattle rubbing stones.

I'll be having a further look at the two circles though, good find and a good article.
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#939229 - 2nd Apr 2015 1:07pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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DD, yes indeed the recycling and repositioning of stones surely happened over time, more information and images will help on the subject. The article is indeed interesting and recalled the other thread on 'stone alignments' in nearby Bidston, that possible circles are being considered takes the discussion to exciting speculation


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#939279 - 2nd Apr 2015 1:41pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Bert could you kindly post/email some high resolution copies of the map showing those stones? I would be interested in taking a closer look.

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#939291 - 2nd Apr 2015 2:26pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Not really Erainn, sorry, the more I zoom the less area you will see.
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#939300 - 2nd Apr 2015 2:56pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: bert1]
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Thanks Bert I understand, pity, is there a way to identify co-ordinates for those stones?

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#939302 - 2nd Apr 2015 2:57pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Originally Posted By: Erainn
Bert could you kindly post/email some high resolution copies of the map showing those stones? I would be interested in taking a closer look.


Hi Erainn

Not sure if the link will work but if you go here you can see very sharp images of the stones marked on Bert's map.
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.3623&lon=-3.0995&layers=6

You can also overlay a mordern map on top. With the bonus of a Georeferenced position, using Side by Side maps.


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#939306 - 2nd Apr 2015 3:09pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: OxtonHill]
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You could also have a fiddle about here, not great though.

http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/TwinMaps.aspx?township=EDT_19-2
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#939309 - 2nd Apr 2015 3:09pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Hello 'OH' thanks very much, shall defo give that look smile

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#939312 - 2nd Apr 2015 3:17pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Bert, cheers for that link

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#939315 - 2nd Apr 2015 3:19pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: OxtonHill]
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that is the business! smile very handy indeed

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#939334 - 2nd Apr 2015 4:41pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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I'm just running a few calculations to check for indication of possible alignments...reason being is that to my eyes they seem to show a direction towards the North East....if these stones are simply gate-posts, either in original position or relocated, then should they show up as being closely aligned in terms of astronomical events it would be something of a remote coincidence in which farmers just happened to place them so accurately..early days of course and who knows could all be down to chance smile


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#939335 - 2nd Apr 2015 4:49pm Re: Woodchurch 'Stone' [Re: Erainn]
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Others in the Clatterbridge area, may help or hinder.


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