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#919647 - 5th Jan 2015 10:52am Ched Evans
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I would be interested to know the opinions of others about this footballer. I know he was convicted of Rape and have had a little look at court case., which seems quite murky to me. Of course I do not condone rapists in any way,Scum, but I do think maybe he should be allowed to play football again earn a living and pay taxes back into system. Should imagine he regrets his actions that night bitterly but has paid the price and to me this campaign against him should stop. Don,t usually get embroiled in these kind of subjects but surprisingly do feel abit of sympathy towards him.Could be shot down on this one!!

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#919648 - 5th Jan 2015 11:07am Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Perhaps he should retrain as an actor and apply to the BBC after all they made a cold blooded murderer famous and a millionaire!!
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#919666 - 5th Jan 2015 12:17pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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I think the problem is he has shown no remorse, and it doesnt help with the trolls hounding the poor girl, like all celebrities footballers think they are above the law, and I think there are a few more that should have been prosecuted,Alex Furgeson took short(allegedly)and got away with driving on the hard shoulder of the motorway, try it sometimes and I bet your feet wont touch.

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#919667 - 5th Jan 2015 12:20pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Er he was innocent.
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#919668 - 5th Jan 2015 12:20pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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No, he shouldn't be reinstated into top class football. Already there has been so much controversial opinion about him and his career, he's already made the opinion polls. He should be forgotten about or else many more will be hankering after the same privileges, after committing any offence. They could be bankers, doctors, nurses, teachers, MP's ...all the people we expect a higher moral code from.
He should be shunted into the realms of oblivion . It was a voluntary act on his behalf.
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#919670 - 5th Jan 2015 12:29pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: _Ste_]
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Originally Posted By: _Ste_
Er he was innocent.


Innocent ?

https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-ched-evans-chedwyn-evans
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#919680 - 5th Jan 2015 1:56pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Having read that account granny all I can say is what a sad excuse for a man he is, do these people have mothers, sisters, or daughters? how would they feel about reading an account like that upon one of their family? taking advantage, and the other vermin with him filming disgusting.

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#919684 - 5th Jan 2015 2:27pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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As a football fan, I wouldn't take to my daughters to a game if he played for the team I support.

Whether they like it or not footballers are role models, they like the money being a role model pays with the media circus.

A convicted rapist should never be classed as a role model.

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#919686 - 5th Jan 2015 3:07pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Horrible excuse for a human. And his GF is no better. Is her life so shallow that she needs to stay with someone who, at best, is a cheater, at worst - we know what.

I'm glad that there was so much interaction in Sheffield to hound him away from SUFC, and I hope Oldham does the same.

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#919715 - 5th Jan 2015 6:41pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Its not really a question of should he play football rather should he work. IMO of course he can work and if that means playing football then so be it--if any club will have him. Or perhaps we as tax payers should keep him on the dole for the rest of his days.

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#919748 - 5th Jan 2015 8:17pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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i agree with gibbo
also if he joins a club .the younger players will think its ok to abuse girls that are drunk because that's what he has done. and no means no and when girls cant answer because they have to much to drink that means NO also.
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#919749 - 5th Jan 2015 8:28pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Yeah, what fish says regardless of if he was falsely accused or not we don't want anymore dolites thanks.

Anyway you lot loved jimmy saville and he was a lot worse and has been proven to be guilty.

That footballer dude didn't have a fair trial.
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#919753 - 5th Jan 2015 8:49pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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Earning 20,000 a WEEK in 2009, he should have enough to keep him off the dole for a generation.
It takes some 2 years to earn that much.
Maybe if he had sex with your wife or daughter being in a similar state as the 19yr old, opinions may have been slightly different and 'fair trial' wouldn't have entered into it.
He had a trial and was found guilty.
Don't know what Jimmy Saville has to do with it. Is he the benchmark for everything now ?
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#919755 - 5th Jan 2015 9:02pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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What I don,t understand is how he was found guilty while the other two McDonald in particular we're not. Do we really know whether Evans knew he was being filmed? He is trying to overturn the guilty verdict so will not admit and show remorse at this stage. As I reiterate Rapists are scum but something about this case does not sit right with me.

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#919770 - 5th Jan 2015 9:24pm Re: Ched Evans [Re: cools]
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The night porter described her as "extremely drunk". That reinforced the Crown's case based on the evidence of witnesses and the cctv footage before she had arrived at the hotel.


The applicant was interviewed. He agreed that he had had both oral and vaginal sex with the complainant. His case was that she had consented. This was the case he advanced at trial.....

Therefore : He knew what state she was in and took advantage of a situation. If it was called 'abuse' would that give a more definite distinction as opposed to 'rape' ?

A man beating, abusing,or raping, a woman or girl who is under the influence of drink, drugs or anything else to such an extent, surely cannot be defended. Anyone who thinks it is acceptable to put that person back into the influential position he left, prior to his unscrupulous activities really needs to have experienced the other side of the fence before making excuses for the b..tards.
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