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#903605 - 3rd Oct 2014 6:21pm Know about double glazing?
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Anyone know much about double glazing technology ?We've had quotes for a door and glass side frame plus a couple of windows. They all say their frames are the best/least flexible/strongest etc crazy Im getting a Rock door , so thats secure enough --its the frames of the windows and door side panels that Im concerned about. I could be sure of the best I suppose if I went with Everest, but out of the question, too expensive by far , but how do I tell amongst the other similarly priced firms , which of their frames is the strongest etc. You can compare width of space betwee the glass in the windows, but is there something I can ask which will show one is better than another?They are nearly all metal strengthened within, but that could be a little or a lot. Any particular kite mark or anything for frames?

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#903606 - 3rd Oct 2014 6:47pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Have you had a quote from Everest ? You may be pleasantly surprised, if you keep saying no, they come down down and down.

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#903610 - 3rd Oct 2014 8:29pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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What profile have they quoted on. I doubt these days that there are poor quality frames as they usually give an independant 10 year guarantee. Was a time years back when some of the white frames yellowed after only a few years. There are also british standards and insulting /heatloss legislation that determine the frame and glass specifications.
You can also get self cleaning glass now for some of the awkward windows.
Just had a quote for fully glazed door 2 side windows and 5 other windows just under 3k

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#903648 - 3rd Oct 2014 10:12pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: Salmon]
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Fish - did you pick a local firm? Ive had the verbal quotes but havent had the written blurb yet with profile numbers etc on . They probably said, but Ive forgotten. If there are no poor quality frames, I wonder what accounts for the massive difference in price between companies like Everest and Anglican, and Safestyle and other cheapies though.

Salmon I had Everest quote about 12 years ago (different windows) and the woman salesperson was really really pushy and unpleasant when we balked at the price, yes they dropped a bit after a couple of weeks, but were still about double other quotes. Now I think about it though I could get them in purely to get them to explain exactly about the strength or otherwise of profiles. grin

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#903655 - 3rd Oct 2014 11:03pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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When we lived down south 15 years back we had Everest quote for front and back windows plus front and back doors.Started at 18K+. We finalised at 7500.In 2010 we got them in to do front windows plus new porch where we are now. Started at 9k+, settled at 3750. Just play dumb,quite easy for me.No doubt about quality difference and guarantees.Surprised you say it took two weeks to come down.We always settled on the night.

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#903657 - 3rd Oct 2014 11:25pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Hi Venice. yes .measured up myself and drew sketches and emailed to couple. Would never use any of the big names because of their rip off sales techniques and Gone with design upvc by harvest mouse Pub.

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#903666 - 4th Oct 2014 6:12am Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Try wholesale Windows in bromborough. We have used them twice, first time for double glazing and the second for a conservatory. They will give you a price and that's the price they stick to, no high pressure salesman and no bartering on price. Both times we have excellent service and excellent aftercare with the ten year guarantee.

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#903667 - 4th Oct 2014 6:22am Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: fish5133]
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Hi Fish, thanks, Ill ask them for a quote. So far Ive considered Safestyle, Wholesale Windows and Facia Direct and about to consider Everite windows Hoylake.

Salmon, how many front windows did they do for that 's and what did the porch entail if you dont mind me asking.

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#903668 - 4th Oct 2014 6:48am Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Hi Finney. I must have been composing when you posted so didnt see your post . A lot of people sound satisfied about Wholesale windows, but Ive mixed feelings because my mum had both doors ,one with side panel done by them . Both allow draughts, and tend to 'move' with the hot and cold weather .
Weve had the fettler back three or four times over the past few years (never a problem getting him back) and he gets it better, but it tends to revert progressively when the weather changes. He agrees its the weather affecting it and says its common.

The front door that has the side panel - the whole four foot width of door and panel flexes and shakes if you slam the door (not violently ) and we dont like that .Makes you feel it wouldnt be too difficult to kick in. The old aluminium one she had was like a rock.

I wouldnt put up with any of that if it was Everest, but I dont know whether these problems are 'normal' with average price firms akin to Wholesale windows.

Be very interested to know if anyone on here has got a mid range company UVPC front door with a side panel that DOESNT flex/shudder ??

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#903669 - 4th Oct 2014 7:21am Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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We have 6 windows in front room and 6 in bedroom above, this includes 2 openers in each room. Then in the smaller bedroom it is 2 windows, 1 opener plus 2 side panes.The porch is 2 doors and 2 side windows. All the windows including the porch have glass above with a rose in them and 1 in each room opens. I hope that makes sense.

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#903674 - 4th Oct 2014 9:51am Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Wow thats good value Salmon! Thanks, I may revise my thoughts on trying them out!

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#903697 - 4th Oct 2014 1:04pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Was talking to a couple of Safestyle canvassers the other day--told them safestyle did a small porch window job for me which was ok but I got pestered for years after with marketing phonecalls despite me telling them to stop.

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#903701 - 4th Oct 2014 1:17pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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If I remember rightly, my back door was done by Prenton Glass. Tidy job, no problems.

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#903705 - 4th Oct 2014 1:43pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Please don't use lifestyle, I was watching them fit a bay window last year at a house close to mine and there was a huge gap on both sides between the wall and frame. No screws where used to fix the frame into place they just pumped expandable foam into it. A colleague at work has also had a similar experience of this with his Windows, his curtains in his lounge would move on a windy day and when he removed the internal facial between the window and frame found it stuffed with newspaper.
At the end of the day you only get what you pay for, wholesale Windows are not the cheapest in the area but I would recommend them.

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#903711 - 4th Oct 2014 2:31pm Re: Know about double glazing? [Re: venice]
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Sorry that should say safestyle......predictive text is a pain in the rear at times

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