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I see you have a very poor view of the people of Wirral," innocent members of the public", uneducated at the matter in hand, families criminalised, Wirral people denigrated by you for speaking out, I didn't see any burning torches nor gangs with pitchforks to deter the criminalised uneducated families from attending.

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My reply to you is:

We are not to take any notice of protestors, but more importantly according to Waddi and Kreki neither are we to listen to reports by CAPS, ADI, reported cases of animal cruelty in circuses, brought to account by the courts and judges of the land.
According to Waddi, only DEFRA who are the Governmental body and they state they want wild animals in circuses banned..........

Of course we must take notice Waddi and Kreki whose opinions happen to be paramount and also happen to be the experts on this issue.Maybe you would be better engaged in lobbying the Government asking them to drop the intended ban.

I've put forward my case Kreki for being against, no need to keep repeating myself.Your case doesn't even hold water.

I will have a nice holiday thank you, might even visit a zoo !

Actually Casper, the only Denigration Ive seen on this thread is aimed at the likes Waddi and myself. Simply because we have different views to you and are standing up for the circus? Its almost like its turning into an "MP Discussion" aka Playground arguement in suits. Also, twisting my words (or maybe you didnt understand my post correctly) doesnt help in this situation. The uneducated I refer to are the Protesters, some of the supposed "Truths" spread on here, Journalists who are trying to manipulate everyone to share their views and opinions, but so far without a single degree of proof to what they are saying. Hear say maybe, and chinese whispers! But no actual evidence.




That was a quick Holiday Granny. Hope the weather was nice?
Experts? Never claimed to be.
Not listening to biased groups and reports with no actual hard evidence of cruelty, just speculation? Yes, hold my hands up to that.

My case doesnt hold water? You may like to think that, hope and dream. But unfortunately, my posts have had more educational integrity and evidence of the animals NOT being mistreated. Just because somebody disagrees with you, doesn't necesarilly mean they are wrong. Something you may need to accept. I wouldnt want you to keep repeating yourself though, as that would get pretty boring. But if you have nothing else to bring to the table to further your case, then I can accept that.

In all seriousness though, please do enjoy your holiday. And enjoy your Hypocritical support of the Zoo you may or may not visit, especially if abroad where animal welfare is substantially lacklustre compared to our own x

The imposed ban that was set to come into force at the end of 2015 has been dropped, note it was not included in the Queens speech.

What evidence would you like to see? Live animals are carted around the country in boxes and brought out once or twice a day to perform degrading, humiliating and un-natural acts in front of people- was going to say 'crowds' but that is not true. That is enough reason alone to say no no no without even bringing in the other arguments about the animals welfare.

Animals in circuses is out dated and un-necessary.Sooner it is outlawed the better.

How do you know the protesters are uneducated? you talk about forming opinions and views, yet are happy to put the views of others down as supposed truths or lies and propaganda.

Bit of an overstatement. Brought out of their boxes once or twice a day? Have you been to Mr Jollies and had a closeup look of the facilities? Maybe you should go and spend a day there and see how they are treated and handled through an entire day. Im pretty sure they receive more exercise than you or I do.



"Propaganda is a form of communication aimed towards influencing the attitude of a population toward some cause or position. Propaganda is information that is not impartial and used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or using loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented".

Go and read back through the entire thread as a neutral party, and tell me which side of the argument has used Carefully Selected Facts to try and rally their cause and produce the "emotional rather than rational response to the information presented"

Just going off topic for a moment, in regards to the claim that the majority of the UK population is against animals in the circus, is this the same as the majority of the UK population was against keeping dolphins in captivity, so all the UK dolphins went over seas, well done people, the dolphins are still in captivity but out of sight out of mind, but it obviously wasn't the majority of the population that was against it, because there are dolphinariums abroad that thrive on British tourism.

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Animals in circus should be banned full stop, And any one that thinks different, should be locked in the same cage as the animal, that's my opinion, or am I going to get a verbal bullying now for having my say. How anybody can say animals in circus is good, and any body that does say it should make a urgent appointment with your doctor to be referred to hospital for a urgent brain scan as you must be brain damaged.

Good troll Willo!

Read back through the thread if you havent already, and read the points raised. Simply turning up and adding a pointless addition to the topic whilst trying to make it personal, really doesnt help the situation and isnt acceptable... Especially when I do actually have family members who are Brain Damaged. Good one!

Willo, you are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to be abusive and aggressive to those who hold a different view. You'll find that it usually doesn't help in bringing someone to see any statement you make as credible.

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I trust you will now receive a 7 day ban as per the rules set out by Mark?

I can turn up in any post I want and add a comment, and no where in that post is it made personal to you, it is my opinion and I am entitle to it.

Rules do not state this.

Re-read them,
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This has not happened, like i say it's my opinion and it's not personal to any one

abusive and aggressive please enlighten me and point out where i have been abusive and aggressive