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Just like the protestors, that is your opinion, not fact.

I'd like to personally stage a protest, about the protestors. Might even make my own half-arse crudely written sign on a piece of Cardboard!

That poor dog should be in its natural habitat, allowed to run free. It shouldnt be kept on a leash, next to a potentially dangerous road whilst its Hypocrite owner tries to "Force their view" on other innocent members of the public. Then what after they go home? Does the dog "Perform" to the owners will to receive a treat or a fussing, handing you its Paw maybe? Disgraceful!

I'd also like to point out that animals can become distressed at the presence of random and loud noises. So for people who care so much, to try and get road users to "Beep" their horns in close proximity to "Wild Animals" is foolish, dangerous and totally irresponsible. For shame...

Another point I would also like to share, is that this hugely successfull protest is a selfish act in 2 ways. 1, pointless waste of police time, spending tax payers money when the police could have been used/needed elsewhere. Everyone knows that police funding and therefore numbers have been cut massively, so to waste police time in this manner is pathetic and disgustingly selfish!!

And finally, by holding a protest so close to a road, you could have potentially caused a lethal situation regarding vehicle users being distracted. What if the dog had run into the road, causing a car to swerve, lose control and tragically hit a group of protesters who so happened to be there? Would that road suddenly receive a Speed Camera as it was an "Accident Blackspot"? Would the driver recieve enough compensation to help them combat the emotive issues and feelings they would experience over the next couple of years? Not forgetting the NHS costs for treatment, and if the incident was unfortunately fatal, spiralling funeral costs?


No, I do not agree with the protest sorry. Its nice that you "Think" you are doing the right thing, but in reality all you are achieving is to bully others to believe your "Facts" and at the same time, ruin memories for families (including children( in the future. Will you enjoy telling Mildred at the next cream cake and coffee evening of your endeavours at the weekend? Maybe ring the Wirral Globe and have a 2 paragraph article printed on page 42 that you can cut out and keep to show your friends and family members over the next couple of years? Will the fame be shortlived? Yes, I believe so. And the Circus will continue to function as it always has. So Congratulations on your very important and successful protest ! Now please go and complain about number 42 in the road putting up a shed in their Garden without permission from the council. Not that you can see it from your house of course, but it is the principle!

If wild animals become distressed at random and loud noises, is applause discouraged in the circus during animal performances?

Applause in an Auditorium has been recorded at 85 db (enclosed solid building). Similar to that of a bus, or a modern aircraft at a distance of 1 mile. In a Circus tent, although the db limit wouldn't change, the effect would be lessened due to environmental losses.

LEGAL Car horns (as some purchase aftermarket products) are between the limits of 100 and 109 db.

Not forgetting that the hearing of many animals is vastly superior to our own, if you have any knowledge of how Decibels work, you cannot fail to see why that is an issue.

Applause would not be classed as random for these animals, they will be accustom to applause.

Nothing could be more distressing than being caged and captive though could it.

Scientific research sometimes takes a rather unusual path too.

e.g. A specific species of monkey, thought to be extinct, was found in the Tanzanian Forests. The Authorities were informed and the British Museum requested the creature to be killed and sent to them for scientific research ! The person who found it, also a scientist, refused to oblige.......

Although my opposition to animals in zoo's is on a par with Bert's, I do think that people should be able to make up their own minds and should not be bullied into pulling back, unless they change their thought process.

So far as the noise decibels are concerned, you are correct Kreki, very sensitive hearing on these animals and I imagine these animals live with the roar of traffic, applause, cannon fire and electrical motors on a permanent buzz all their lives. They have probably been well and truly deaf from a young age.

If kept in sub-regulation conditions, no.

But the conditions of the circus in question is far superior to regulation.

When audited, which is a condition of the license, they recieve no advisories, only compliments. These audits are done by local officials and vets.

They are being audited through the eyes and opinions of a humans. Not necessarily correct.

All those in favour, should be sent to the jungle without the cosiness of your four protective walls. Change of rolls , and see how you get on.

They are being protested against through the views and opinions of a humans. Not necessarily correct.

So now the professionals, the experts, the highly educated on this matter, that have been entrusted by the government with the power to grant, deny or revoke a license are wrong?

No, the protest is against any further involvement in making caged animals perform tricks. That is correct

On what basis?

But they are not highly educated on this matter, only on the matter that those in offices can prepare a symptomatic report and give clearance of a situation which was held by Victorians to be of great wonder. We have moved on and as it is the centenary of the World War I tomorrow , we have learnt lessons from so much, and developed our Victorian ideas to better please humanity,......why not for the animals ? That itself answers a question doesn't it ? All down to keeping people happy for pleasure. Tourism etc. and caged animals. Do you agree with dancing bears in Russia, or cock fighting, it's all for entertainment purposes ? What do the professionals say about that ?

So what truly is your opinion ? Are you totally for caged animals in circuses to continue like a legacy, for the benefit of you and your screwed up little mind that can't see any further than your own back yard, or is it because you have such a disregard for the welfare of animals that your case is closed and invalid right from the onset? The latter I think is to be seriously considered.