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#860217 - 23rd Feb 2014 2:06pm Political party clubs query
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Does anyone know of where to get a list of these clubs that were on Wirral.
I have passed or seen on maps Liberal and Conservative clubs (don't know whether there were Labour clubs though)
dotted here and there in areas where you wouldn't expect them to be

eg in Borough Rd, Seacombe I was told a building just up from the Embassy used to be a Conservative club.
Also I don't know if originally you had to be a party member to go in them.
Do they give us an inkling of where they were was considered a winnable seat by that party at the time of being built?


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#860230 - 23rd Feb 2014 2:58pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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Originally Posted By: derekdwc
(don't know whether there were Labour clubs though)
There used to be a Labour Club on Church Road (opposite where the P.A used to be).

Re. the Conservative club on Borough Road- remember that back in the day St Pauls Road was an affluent road, housing Doctors, Lawyers and the likes...
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#860286 - 23rd Feb 2014 5:42pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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My Father was a member of the Oxton Conservative Club in Storeton Road. From memory it was situated adjacent to the Arno. Building wasn't there last time I was passing. I "think" it might have been an old school at some point ??

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#860307 - 23rd Feb 2014 7:42pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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Liberal club Church Road, Higher Tranmere, between Dial Road and the Bee Hive Pub, the site has still got a club building in use now but no longer as the Liberal club. Conserative club Old Chester Road Lower Tranmere, directly opposite the top of Union Street on the corner of Downham Road, Was a large red brick building during the 50's, then it was pulled down and the south end social club was built on the site, this closed down and the building was torched, the land which was the Conserative clubs bowling green is still there.
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#860317 - 23rd Feb 2014 8:15pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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I remember a right wing party, I would venture neo-nazi called the CITIZEN'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY, which held meetings in the Seacombe Ferry Hotel in the early 1970's. I do not mean that awful dive called the Seacombe Ferry, which may be more familiar to most of the oiks on here, but instead the old Victorian hotel. They also held meetings in the Albion in New Brighton.

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#860318 - 23rd Feb 2014 8:19pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Oh yes of course! The tracky suit wearing , cider drinking, dope smokers, among us would hasten to deny it, but Seacombe, was and is, home to intelligent people.

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#860325 - 23rd Feb 2014 8:59pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: europa1]
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Labour Club, The York Hotel, Grange Rd,
Liberal Club, Claughton Rd, opposite Asda car parks.
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#860328 - 23rd Feb 2014 9:48pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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Originally Posted By: derekdwc

Also I don't know if originally you had to be a party member to go in them.
Do they give us an inkling of where they were was considered a winnable seat by that party at the time of being built?
Thought-provoking thread this Derek. Who funded these clubs? We know that not many people are actually members of Political parties, so has membership declined over the years? think

We had our wedding reception (back in 1993) at the Conservative Club, Borough Road, Seacombe. Neither of us can remember why there, though? It was not even local to us then as we lived in Tranmere so either somebody we knew was a member there and was able to book the venue or it was cheap...lol

Plusone thinks it was the V.A.N.S.A club- no idea what that stands for....off for a google...
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#860330 - 23rd Feb 2014 10:03pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: RUDEBOX]
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Conservative club in Manor road Wallasey. Doubt many members are members of the Tory party and anyone can hire the room for functions. Nice place, pity about the politics!

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#860339 - 23rd Feb 2014 11:47pm Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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Facebook conversation- names omitted.

Does anybody have any old pictures/ information about the VANCA (?) club in Borough Road, Seacombe?? Thanks in advance.
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I was only thinking about that place yesterday Dawn....
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wasn't that the conservative club
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yes. I would be interested to know what V.A.N.C.A stood for? We had our wedding reception there in 1993
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I think it was the initials of the people that owned it Dawn.
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Really? Thats a surprise. I thought perhaps, the last two letters stood for Conservative Association?? Thanks Carole
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When my Dad was a member of the Connie Club, My Mum was only aloud to go once a year, I think it was at New Year. Lynda Chalker was the only woman aloud in the club on other nights!
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all fellas told their wives or girlfriends that so they didn't have to take them and they all fell for it lol
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Interesting, C. Derek has a thread up next door re political party clubs.So did members have to be paid up members of said political partys?? (to be allowed in) and why 'no women'?
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Women weren't allowed upstairs but the Connie's later Vanser was a social club. It was the name of the owners john rebabs who owned it. I lived around the corner.
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Thanks Janet
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It was an all mens club Dawn, back in the early 70's they were common place
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You didn't need to be a member of the Conservative party to be a member upstairs ( or down) we had many a family do there.
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I think Linda chalker mp for Wallasey was refused admission!
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Ah yes, I remember my dad showing us pubs in Liverpool with signs saying 'No Women' and 'No Blacks' on the doors, in the mid-70s. Shocking.....
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Really? I remember my Dad saying she was allowed in!
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I'm sure she was refused initially. I remember being shocked at the time and wanted to know who would have refused mrs thatcher?!
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Vanser is rearranged as the owners name was Revans, x are you looking for anyone in particular dawn!, I worked there in early 90s, was a regular also,x
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We used to go to the children's Xmas parties upstairs.
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Went there every Saturday night with my dad. we also had a few family do's and funerals there. Lovely people that worked there.
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So who funded these 'political' clubs? Or was it just a way of 'dividing' people?? Conservative thinking people went to the Connie....those with Labou beliefs went to the Labour Club??..
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Tina, I am not looking for anybody. Just interested in the origins of 'political' clubs...
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No. My family are so far from conservative thoughts. It was just a good club cheap beer.
Dad played darts for them.
But the family also went to labour club.
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For us nothing to do with politics, just the local with lovely staff.
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Think they were all"political" at one time! As I went to the labour club for a few years, but not in the "political" sense! X
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It's the origins that I am interested in...did members at one time have to be affiliated to a political party....to gain access?? A kind of 'like-minded' collectiveness??
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Remember.....St Pauls Road was considered an affluent road, as was Church Street in Egremont, back in the day....
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#860344 - 24th Feb 2014 3:39am Re: Political party clubs query [Re: Helles]
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Conservative club in Manor road Wallasey. Doubt many members are members of the Tory party and anyone can hire the room for functions. Nice place, pity about the politics!


Probably there for the less than left-wing constabulary members !

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#860345 - 24th Feb 2014 3:44am Re: Political party clubs query [Re: ]
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My Father was a member of the Oxton Conservative Club in Storeton Road. From memory it was situated adjacent to the Arno. Building wasn't there last time I was passing. I "think" it might have been an old school at some point ??


Well its certainly in Village Road, Oxton near junction with Rosemount now and was purpose built @1900 - the new village end as we call it... (old original village was near St Saviours/Carnarvon Castle)..
Wondering about your club now - maybe it was Prenton Cons ?

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#860346 - 24th Feb 2014 3:46am Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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Oxton Libs - Shrewsbury Road on junction with Arnside Road

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#860598 - 25th Feb 2014 10:43am Re: Political party clubs query [Re: derekdwc]
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I think most of these clubs mentioned may well be over 100 years old and originally you had to be a member of its party to go in

some info on Wikipedia
Conservative clubs

and
Liberal club


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