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I prescribe for you a big box of HAPPY PILLS
You need them

Learn to live, love, enjoy, smile, take risks, get excited and always TRY to see the better nature in your fellow man.

Our existence is FAR from meaningless. There is so much we can do even as individuals. If, as an individual, you have improved your lot and that of some others in some way, no matter how small, then - you have taken a step along the path to enlightenment. It is a long path. It can be a rough path at times and it is unlikely that you will always move in the same direction ie there will be set-backs. Smile at those and try again, and if that fails, try again.

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5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
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As they say in "cloud atlas " what is an ocean but merely a collection of drops, when the actor tries to rip down his view of making a change to apathetic human kind.
im not that bad, but modern life is all about disconnection to what we do, an augmented reality that doesn't touch you.
Its the brain death of modern culture.
I just say people wake up....most want to "sleep"

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Sven, I read your posts with great interest, and you have obviously formed your opinions, views and voice from observing and listening to the actions and voices of others. We all do this as it is very much a part of our lives in this modern era.
We need to hold onto an inner strength to live through these difficult times, which will not improve. All you accuse of being guilty of these actions, are not following the teachings of any religion or belief, and that is the fact.
You don't believe in religion or faith because of their actions, so in a word, they have also corrupted your thoughts too.
Although I do not like using bible quotes, the following from Mark 7 v20-23 gives us the warning of all that you mention. The religious texts are full of these teachings. They were given for our own good, which obviously haven't worked.

And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.” ........

Maybe you should step back from your judgements a little and try to find some love. There is a little bit of good in everything and we should look for it. Love harms nobody, least of all yourself.


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I understand your points but its like the definition of a misanthropic = "hell is other people"
im not the greatest person, no one is, im not doing anything wrong or being harmful with these views (you may say myself) I'm just very analytical and observational (im a virgo)
I sometimes vocalised my views and many agree but wont say themselves through fear of not being in the group.....that's sad, im direct , tell it like it is.
I don't believe religion purely because its totally illogical and impractical , it just sways to demand and people inherently cherry pick what they want out of it.
A lot of extreme ists use religion for very bad and evil reasons , I mean the fact we have a huge wall between people in Israel against palastine due to religion / division/ hatred /fear is just madness and stupidity.
The hatred of the orange lodge in Ireland is just the same dumb mentality.....religion.

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Originally Posted by svenlock68
I understand your points but its like the definition of a misanthropic = "hell is other people"
im not the greatest person, no one is, im not doing anything wrong or being harmful with these views (you may say myself) I'm just very analytical and observational (im a virgo)
I sometimes vocalised my views and many agree but wont say themselves through fear of not being in the group.....that's sad, im direct , tell it like it is.
I don't believe religion purely because its totally illogical and impractical , it just sways to demand and people inherently cherry pick what they want out of it.
A lot of extreme ists use religion for very bad and evil reasons , I mean the fact we have a huge wall between people in Israel against palastine due to religion / division/ hatred /fear is just madness and stupidity.
The hatred of the orange lodge in Ireland is just the same dumb mentality.....religion.
clear your pms?

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You might be surprised sven, but I actually like what you are saying. Can't necessarily agree with all you say particularly blaming religion for all the ills of the world, but it doesn't really matter if you do. I do like the fact that you say what you need to say, instead of being conditioned into not speaking out for fear of reprisals, as some are.
Politics with religion is the dangerous mix, of which many of the world leaders attempt to use.
Nobody can tell you the way to think, what to believe or how to live but creation gave each of us a purpose in life and if we can find what our own purpose is, then we can feel more comfortable with ourselves and others around us , and hopefully have more understanding.
There are some very, very good people in this world of ours, working continuously ,behind the scenes, for the benefit of others. The human race is far from being 'all bad'. smile


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I read your link re.Spiritualism Granny.

Still un-decided whether it is a 'true' religion or a philosophy/ belief system- BUT what I do know is that I have changed as a person for embracing it- for the better (always had an interest but that has deepened much furthur now, over the last 12 months or so).

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Originally Posted by granny
You might be surprised sven, but I actually like what you are saying. Can't necessarily agree with all you say particularly blaming religion for all the ills of the world, but it doesn't really matter if you do. I do like the fact that you say what you need to say, instead of being conditioned into not speaking out for fear of reprisals, as some are.
Politics with religion is the dangerous mix, of which many of the world leaders attempt to use.
Nobody can tell you the way to think, what to believe or how to live but creation gave each of us a purpose in life and if we can find what our own purpose is, then we can feel more comfortable with ourselves and others around us , and hopefully have more understanding.
There are some very, very good people in this world of ours, working continuously ,behind the scenes, for the benefit of others. The human race is far from being 'all bad'. smile
Referring just to myself, I agree with a hell of a lot that Sven (and others) post.Some members think that our posts make us 'sad' and 'jealous'- missing out on corporate trapp
ings, if you will... Not atall.

5* hotels, smoked salmon, 16oz steaks with triple fried chips mean NOTHING to me. I value people by personality not how fat their wallets are....

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Rude, I have also heard Spiritualism referred to as a science.
I think, that finding something that deepens our awareness, is always good for us. As you, I always had an interest in various religious groups and their ideas. Never did anything about it until about 10 yrs ago. It has grown from there and I have an inner peace, which was never expected. It's lovely.

With a comment that I forgot to make to Sven's post, about the wall between Israel and Palestine. Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The wall is 20th century and the Jews had no homeland until the 1948 when I think America decided it should be there. Britain was not in favour as it wanted to keep it's good political relations with Palestine. Israel is Zionist which is more like a political movement, a jew is a person who is a part of Judaism and the Zionists have been compared to the BNP. So yet again, troubles of political and not of truly religious origin. As I have said before, when Britain goes to war, it is because of a political decision and it is not the Christians (as this is a Christian country) who have gone to war.


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id point out that, although its not lee rigbys direct fault, he was murdered as a weird very distant and removed distorted consequence of usa/uk foreign policy.
I say again, political decision consequences are never felt by the MPS but the public.
Again i'll quote Tolstoy "as long as theres slaughter houses, there will always be battlefields "
Nothing has changed in all those years, that wall is the same as the berlin wall of the 90s
Human race will always fight and divide each other, we ARE savages even now.
I hate the way the public go on about 'help the heroes' in the uk, theyre not !, were not being occupied by the germans ?!modern war is about domination and oil /money control.....soldiers are merely expendable puppets to this process.
If you get your legs blown off, Cameron and blair aint going to be loyal to you are they? they don't care...
The uk public whine about 500 deaths but who cares about the non terrorist 100,000 Iraq people men / women/ children who lie in their graves???
This is why they'll always hate us and things like lee rigby will continue.



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In the light of the dreadful floods in Somerset and the most definite loss of wildlife will no doubt include badgers, rabbits, foxes, squirrels, field mice, birds, voles, fish and many more. Maybe the flood in Noah's time is not quite so fanciful any longer.



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mother nature will always on a regular basis show us whos boss......her
and all our "advancement, brains , superiority ," means nothing....

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Have to agree with you on that one.

Each one of us, a mere spec on this planet, completely defenceless against the natural elements and when they come with fury, they have complete control.

Does anyone believe in 'prophecy' ?


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Some members may be interested in watching this programme tonight.

Bible Hunters BBC2 at 9pm 1/2 The Search for Bible Truth: The first of a two part documentary telling the stories of dedicated men and women who travelled across Egypt in the 19th and early 20th centuries looking to unearth the earliest Christian texts. Their discoveries shed new light on the origins of Christianity and the story of the Bible.

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a good one was on BBC THREE years ago..."SURVIVING PROGRESS"

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