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#852912 - 24th Jan 2014 11:21am Smart Meters
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Last night, someone gave me a slightly informed picture as to why they would not have a water meter due to radiation and suggested I should look it up.
As it happens, I now have a water meter, but have still got time to have it removed and don't know what to do.
Having found some information, on the link below , should this be a matter for concern, or does it just blend in with all the other equipment we use these days?
We need to know the dangers and I think there is something on facebook too.

http://www.smartmeterpetition.org/

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Smart meters broadcast detailed usage data from our homes to the supplier via a central data office. They use wireless technology and operate day and night, constantly emitting microwave radiation over a wide area, so radiation from your neighbours’ meters will affect your property. The UK government have chosen to use outdated (ICNIRP) safety guidelines which focus on the thermal effects. Other countries including Russia and China have updated their safety guidelines to include non-thermal effects on health; fibre optic connections would be safer for privacy and health. While a one-off exposure may not cause harm to adults, continuous involuntary exposure to low-level microwave radiation (e.g. smart meters, tetra, mobile phone masts etc) is already causing harm to vulnerable people. There has been no government research into the long-term, cumulative health effects especially on children, babies and people with existing long-term illness. If you have any concerns, or your neighbour has Environmental Illness please keep your existing meters and find out more. In 2012 Charles Hendry Energy Minister, told the House of Commons: “We believe that people will benefit from having smart meters, but we will not make them obligatory. If people are concerned about the electromagnetic issues, they will not be required to have one. We have been willing to give assurances to Hon Members on that account.”
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#852919 - 24th Jan 2014 11:52am Re: Smart Meters [Re: granny]
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#852920 - 24th Jan 2014 11:54am Re: Smart Meters [Re: granny]
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granny i asked about these last year and so far iv not got one installed

clicky... https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/774545/Re_Smart_Meters.html#Post774545
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#852956 - 24th Jan 2014 3:38pm Re: Smart Meters [Re: granny]
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Oh heck !! Thanks for that Rocks. Doesn't look good does it?

I've just thrown a wet cloth over my water meter, don't know if it will help. laugh
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#852967 - 24th Jan 2014 4:54pm Re: Smart Meters [Re: granny]
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Our water meter has to be manually read so it's not 'smart'. Might be worth asking United Utilities if they've recently changed the ones they use. I assume a smart meter would need a power supply so I don't see how it could work - at least without you knowing about it?

Smart meters would use the same technology as your mobile phone to 'call home' every so often with your usage. I don't see the issue...unless it was doing it 24/7.

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#853122 - 24th Jan 2014 11:59pm Re: Smart Meters [Re: granny]
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Water meters use Bluetooth, and when they come to read them all the need to do is drive past your house and the details are collected, I was told this by the bloke from united utilities when they installed mine. If your that worried wrap it in tin foil, and when they drive past and can not get a reading, they will no doubt be in contact with you, and you can explain why to them.

Good luck trying to get them to uninstall it

Can I change my mind after the water
meter has been fitted?
Yes, unless you are a high water user. For example,
if you fill a pond or swimming pool (with a capacity
over 10,000 litres) automatically, use a sprinkler, or
your property is a house and business and the main
water usage is for the business, then you’d have to
keep your metered bills.
For everyone else you have up to 13 months, after
the water meter has been fitted, to tell us that you
want to change back to the way we used to charge
you for water services.
We’ll not remove the meter but all your future
bills will be based on the rateable value of your
property, as before. If you don’t tell us within this
time period, you’ll continue to pay charges based on
your meter readings.
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