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Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error #848907
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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #848908
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So if you have been claiming housing benefit since before 1/1/1996 you don't have to pay it and are due a refund if you have been paying it.

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Originally Posted by brady
So if you have been claiming housing benefit since before 1/1/1996 you don't have to pay it and are due a refund if you have been paying it.


How do you pay a tax that doesn't exist?

Nobody pays anything, never have never will.

What has happened is an adjustment has been made to housing benefit claims. I wish people would get this thing clear in their minds.


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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #848955
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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: nem12esis] #848960
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Originally Posted by nem12esis

How do you pay a tax that doesn't exist?

Nobody pays anything, never have never will.

What has happened is an adjustment has been made to housing benefit claims. I wish people would get this thing clear in their minds.


Here is a quote from the announcement
"3.For claimants to come within paragraph 4(1)(a) of Schedule 3 to the Consequential Provisions Regulations, they must have been continuously entitled to HB since at least 1 January 1996 and occupied the same dwelling since that date, save for any period where a fire, flood, explosion or natural catastrophe has rendered the property uninhabitable"

This does not apply to everyone so there is still a "tax" that has to be paid
You are right saying it is not a tax (also known as Spare Room Subsidy) but we all know it really is
The "bedroom tax" label has stuck so lets just say it is a tax

Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #849088
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I disagree, it isn't and never will be a tax, there will never be a bill, there is nothing to pay. It is so incredibly simple, for SOCIAL housing tenants ONLY, that is Housing Association and Council Tenants ONLY who get Housing Benefit for whatever reason, will get that benefit based on the amount of people, so a single person will get HB for a 1 bedroomed place, and so on. It's simple.

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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: mikeeb] #849097
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Originally Posted by mikeeb
Originally Posted by nem12esis

How do you pay a tax that doesn't exist?

Nobody pays anything, never have never will.

What has happened is an adjustment has been made to housing benefit claims. I wish people would get this thing clear in their minds.


Here is a quote from the announcement
"3.For claimants to come within paragraph 4(1)(a) of Schedule 3 to the Consequential Provisions Regulations, they must have been continuously entitled to HB since at least 1 January 1996 and occupied the same dwelling since that date, save for any period where a fire, flood, explosion or natural catastrophe has rendered the property uninhabitable"

This does not apply to everyone so there is still a "tax" that has to be paid
You are right saying it is not a tax (also known as Spare Room Subsidy) but we all know it really is
The "bedroom tax" label has stuck so lets just say it is a tax


No lets not just say it is a tax.
Where does your excerpt say there is a tax to be paid? Nowhere because there is no tax and never will be. Whether or not some prefer to call it a tax is irrelevant. Perhaps next we will all call 'cats' 'dogs' in the hope that it will stick.
Let's just keep real here and stop people worrying about how they will pay their next tax bill (If they do pay income tax that is).
This misnomer has been applied by the left and by the press to make it sound like something nasty. It is just a rebalancing of a particular benefit as it is presently unfair to the taxpayer who subsidises it.

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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #849099
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and in the meanwhile..... up to 40 000 people can expect reimbursement due to the sheer incompetence of IDS and the DWP


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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #849103
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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: BandyCoot] #849134
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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
Like a broken record.
tired

????

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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: RUDEBOX] #849139
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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
and in the meanwhile..... up to 40 000 people can expect reimbursement due to the sheer incompetence of IDS and the DWP


If they are entitled then fair enough.


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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #849164
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lets just call it a tax grin
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Re: Its official...DWP admit 1996 bedroom tax error [Re: brady] #849183
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it's true name is under-occupancy penalty, as pointed out it isn't a tax

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The definition of 'penalty' ...... think


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