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ways to find a job! #820135
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Hi,My husband has just lost his job after 16 years working for one of the main supermarkets.The thing is,because he had his job so long,and because I have been in my job for years,neither of us know how to look for a job anymore.Years ago you just went to the jobcentre and picked a job off a board.He has looked daily on "jobmatch",but where else can he look.Are there any good agencies that specialize in retail that he can register with?Any suggestions will be gratefully received ,thanks!

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Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820146
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It's a scary world out there !!
Good Luck with the job hunting thumbsup

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820150
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Make sure your CV is up to date and change it depending on what job you are applying for.

Once the CV or application form has been sent give them a ring a week later to make sure they have got it, this is a good way to show you are keen and also you can ask questions, how many jobs are available, how many applicants, how many short listed, will they let you know either way, when can you expect an interview etc etc.

Don't just apply for jobs advertised at the job centre, there are loads of jobs o the internet and some jobs don't get advertised so send CVs to companies you would like to work for. Again taylor the covering letter, show them you have done research about the company.

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820154
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Right here goes:

1. First of all, get a well written CV together.

Something like this but without all the unnecessary borders and pictures. Just nice, easy to read, text in Arial font. You CAN put a portrait shot on the CV but this can work for or against you depending on who sees the CV. Id leave it off.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/raiseyourgame/images/good_cv.pdf

2. You are more likely to get work in an industry that you have a lot of experience in. If he has worked in retail for over 16 years, it would be fruitless and frustrating to decide that being a librarian or working in a mine would be a good choice. He will have the best chance of finding work in the retail sector. Start there.

3. When employers look for potential staff they want to see the following on the CV.

- Relevant experience. If your husband has 5 years of stacking shelves, 5 years of checkout and 5 years of line management experience, put the highest responsibility first like this:

___________________________
January 1st 1997 - Present
Megamart Ltd

October 2006 - Present
Staff Team Leader

During this position I was responsible for looking after blah blah blah.


July 2002 - October 2006
Senior Checkout Manager

Responsible for managing the checkouts, making sure that shoppers were being served quickly. I achieved this through communication with staff and being an approachable manager.

January 1997 - July 2002
Shop floor assistant

Duties included:

- Stacking Shelves
- Sweeping
- Assisting with customer enquiries

_____________

The other thing they are looking for is that you have worked for competitors. Now, I know Asda in particular use this to NOT hire staff, but some of the other supermarkets LOVE staff who have the same skills. So... If the job spec is:

Hypermart Ltd are seeking a Team Leader for their Birkenhead Branch. Must have:

- Experience of people management
- Experience of working within the bakery or chilled foods section
- Experience of dealing with customer complaints and queries
- A presentable appearance and friendly demeanour

Your CV needs to say:

October 2006 - Present
Staff Team Leader

During this position I was responsible for looking after 17 staff members such Checkout Assistants, cleaners and security staff. I have experience of working within the Bakery, Frozen Foods and home entertainment departments and feel comfortable in all areas of the store.

My past performance proves that I am comfortable in the role of manager and that I have expereince of dealing with difficult situations which arise from customers and staff disputes.

I am a keen cyclist / runner / walker (WHATEVER!!!) and look after myself.

_____________________


Right. So if the spec says you need experience of cleaning toilets and you have done it in the past, MAKE SURE ITS ON THE CV.

The purpose of your CV is to get an interview, nothing else.

You will need to tweak your CV depending on the role you are going for. If its more junior, play down the management experience, if its more senior talk more about the senior level roles.

Make sure you target roles that are relevant to what he has DONE, not what he is interested IN. This is a mistake many people make when applying for jobs.

I am very interested in computer programming and playing xbox. It doesnt mean I should apply for Lead Programmer at Microsoft. It would be like ice skating uphill.

As sad as it may sound, in this job market, noone is going to give you a chance in the hope that you MIGHT be able to do it. They want proof you can do it and that you have done it successfully.


Finally..... Apply, apply, apply.

Use the various jobs boards and Upload your CV.

Totaljobs.com
Jobsite.co.uk
CVlibrary
Indeed

Depending on what level jobs he is going for, your local paper, other supermarket websites and dont forget the main one.

ASKING SOMEONE YOU KNOW!!! If you know ANYONE who works in a simiar place, ask them who the hiring manager is and go DIRECTLY to them with your CV. Either by email or phone or preferably face to face.

Finding a job isnt easy, but if you stick to common sense and keep your head up you will find work again quickly.

Dont rely on the jobcentre as their aim is to keep you on benefits so that they can move you onto training courses and fudge unemployment figures. Dont forget, if they get everyone off benefits then they would be out of work....

If he is proactive and likeable and confident, he wont be out of work very long. Once you start signing on, its a downward spiral and he will find himself getting depressed and doubting his worth. The job centre is a place of ruin, use as a last resort.

Last but not least, good luck. If you need interview advice further down the line, please feel free!



Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820159
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Thankyou,it all sounds like good advice.When you're working you hear people moaning about how hard it is to get a job,and without being in that position you just dismiss it as people not really wanting to get work.Now we are seeing just what it's like out there,and I tell you it's definitely changed my mind.Here's hoping something comes up!

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820171
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If you still need a hand pop into Seacome Library between 2 and 5 on a Thursday or Friday they have a guy helping people on the IT side he'll be happy to help

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820172
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Good luck. Im recruiting for Nuclear Physicist roles at the moment and im getting applications from Chippy workers and Admin assistants. People dont look at what they are applying for.

If you keep it relevant, you will be fine!

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820173
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Also, ive heard of people paying to get CV's professionally done.

DO NOT PAY ANYONE TO DO YOUR CV, 99% of the time its a rip off.

If you need CV writing advice, im happy to give it for free.

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820174
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Deano, just want to comment on the piece where you said "go and ask who the hiring manager is". Through recent experience as I too am looking for a job, if you ask that question in any supermarket whether or not you know people who work there, you will simply be told that all applications are now online. They do not take any CV's or letters from you. I tried, as I used to work in ASDA Brom years ago and have kept in touch with folk from there. It makes no difference frown

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: DeanoBirko] #820175
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Originally Posted by DeanoBirko
Also, ive heard of people paying to get CV's professionally done.

DO NOT PAY ANYONE TO DO YOUR CV, 99% of the time its a rip off.

If you need CV writing advice, im happy to give it for free.


Just curious Deano (I'm assuming you hire people) as unfortunately I got a letter today saying that I was unsuccessful in getting a position I had interviewed for last week frown If I were to call or email the interviewer would they be able to say what it was that I did/didn't do that prevented me from getting hired? Is this something you've had asked of you too?

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: Elizabeth] #820180
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Unfortunately the people doing the hiring in these companies are getting so many responses these days that they cant devote any time to feedback.

When I was hiring a few years back I got so many applications that anything with a spelling mistake got binned ..I had to have some kind of system!!

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: unicornace] #820184
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Originally Posted by unicornace


When I was hiring a few years back I got so many applications that anything with a spelling mistake got binned ..I had to have some kind of system!!


Shouldn't think that left you with many. wink


Carpe diem.
Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820188
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Originally Posted by DeanoBirko
Good luck. Im recruiting for Nuclear Physicist roles at the moment and im getting applications from Chippy workers and Admin assistants. People dont look at what they are applying for.

If you keep it relevant, you will be fine!
Possibly due to the threat of sanctioning if they do not apply for x amount of jobs per week .


Mia Mabel

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Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820196
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LittleFoote I think you need to look at my CV haha it's as old & knackered as me :-0

www.indeed.co.uk is a good site.

Re: ways to find a job! [Re: hoochtaz] #820199
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Just thought I'd say that it was very good of DeanoBirko to put so much thought and effort into his reply.

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