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helles ,i choose to work and touch wood if i ever loose my job i will look for work and do anything (and have done) to earn my way through life and if that means i have to sweep the streets on the dole then so be it .

Also, 'disabled' is to easy to be in this day and age. [/quote]



Holy crap ! Did i just read maddonnafan writing

" its to easy to be disabled in this day and age" ?

What the hell is so easy about being disabled in these days of cuts ???

On a brighter note ... superdrug has just withdrawn its support from the workfare scheme![/quote]


I think what they mean about its easy to be disabled these days is that some people have a very minor aliment which according to them makes them exempt from working.

Well maybe maddonnafan would like to clarify what is easy about being disabled or even being classed as disabled.

Im not sure disabled people would agree!

Bert1 has hit the nail on the head.

Firms also got cheap labour when the Working Tax Credit was introduced. Basically, the government supported all the companies that decided to pay minimum wage ( the bandwaggon they all jumped on)and offered part time hours or job share. It kept the unemployment figures down.

One other thing that was mentioned last week on 'This Week' was that Europe is intending to take control of our wages. That is how I understood it.Does anyone know?

So you would work all week for £71?

yes and no ,yes i would work for my dole wouldnt be happy earning crap money but still be paying my way .i have had good and bad jobs and dont knock anybody out of work who wants to work. i just dont think people who cant be arsed should get away with it .

http://sorrelish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/7-reasons-why-you-should-stop-bitching.html?spref=fb

If you're the sort of person who thinks that people who claim benefits are by default 'cheats and scroungers' you probably don't want to bother clicking that link.

It expains some of the truths about our benefits system and debunks some of the unpalatable myths peddled by the naturally unhappy in our society.

Correct.

See above.

It's too easy to be 'classed as disabled'.

I clicked it and was met with;

"The welfare state is a safety net."

i.e. not something you can simply rely on because you're too bone idle to go out and get a job.

Yes those of us that work and pay tax dont mind paying for those in need. What all of us hate that pay our tax are the people who sit back and dont want or cant be bothered to work. They have the latest phones with internet, spend time in pub or home drinking ,smoking. They usually have the lastest gear and run cars. Thats where life isnt fair, but i is suppose life isnt fair for most people especailly when they have had their wages frozen, hours slashed, and find it expensive to run cars to get to work, loss of shift allowence or indeed having to pay bedroom tax.

You do have a point there Sue,Smoking and drinking these days not cheap at all.Not all have the latest cars,phones etc , they wont be able to buy there fags and booze everyday.They plead poverty but allways have money for them luxurys.Too many that havent worked in years,And have no intention in working there whole lifes.they just take it for granted the social will support them all there lifes.

Really!?! I tell you what, how about you have my "easy" disability for a few days? You can kiss goodbye to sleep as the pain is horrific, don't expect to be able to walk without morphine, crutches or not at all & have to use the wheelchair. Trouble is, you'd have to use the use of your left arm too, which means you wouldn't be able to use the wheelchair (unless you like going round in circles) so you'd have to rely on someone to help you.

You'd have to rely on someone else to have to carry out basic tasks for you too, like helping you to shave one armpit, putting a bra on, putting deodorant on, washing and drying your hair & putting your hair up. Then of course, there's the fact you can't do all your housework in one day because you can't stand for long. Have you ever tried to do the dishes or hoover from a wheelchair? Then you have to rely on someone else to help with your housework, or try to work out what can go so that you can pay someone to come in for a few hours a week just to help keep on top of it.

The isolation and the fact that most weeks, the only conversation you get is via the internet as you lose some of your "friends" as they no longer know how to treat you. The pity looks & comments. The fact that people sometimes speak to you as if you are deaf, stupid or both just because you're in a wheelchair or "look different".

Then of course, there's the massive amount of tablets you'd have to take (hope you like maracas as that's what you think you'll sound like as you have to take so many). Oh, then there's the injections into the joints with no local anaesthetic, the associated weight gain with steroids, the constant losing battle to lose weight so that you will be fit enough for the next bit of surgery to hopefully fix you - which could well only be an above knee amputation. 12 fractures put in your femur every 9-12 months in an attempt to fix the bone & associated tissue.

The shoulder surgery comes before that. That operation will either give you a bit more use in your arm or render it totally useless! The falls, which result in more broken bones, bruising, cuts to your head, concussion. I could go on if you like!

I haven't even started on the side effects of the medication, the exhaustion, the times when the pain won't even go with morphine and you really do get close to giving up as it would mean an end to the pain, the funny looks you get, the snide comment from groups of kids as you hobble/wheel past, the self loathing & frustration because you've gone from a full time job that you love to a totally worthless member of society, held in lower esteem than criminals (or branded one yourself as you must be defrauding the system) in a heartbeat, through no fault of your own!

Oh, and just to add insult to injury, you have someone telling you it's "easy" to be disabled & that you're a scrounger!!

Still think it's easy? You wouldn't last 24 hours!