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Originally Posted by rottylady
Yes discretionary payments are available to the most vulnerable, for 13 wks maximum, after that your on your own, do we feed & clothe our children, do we stop paying utility bills, to pay the bedroom tax?
As Cameron would say
YES TO BEDROOM TAX
NO TO MANSION TAX
Camerons mantra
WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER
what a load of b***s**t
The pot is just way too small and when its gone, its gone. Even Cameron over estimated the coffers in the pot.

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Originally Posted by taylor4898
yes some are going to be penalised...but when you read some of the excuses for needing an extra bedroom..especially on here

well some are laughable to say the least!

For those that cannot afford to pay the extra there will be discretionary payments available i believe....
They will catch some liars out as well and who are cheating the system, Alot of disabled poeple need a spare room so they will look into each case.

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Human rights lawyers??..are you lot for real?
Love to read some cases!


you won't get a reply or any evidence,from Rudebox and gang...because you dared to disagree lol


I was curious to see what grounds there was for involving H.R lawyers??


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Originally Posted by Salmon
The more we read about this "bedroom tax" the more iniquitous it seems to be.I made a comment early on in this thread that although it may seem right in principle and that each case must be judged on it's merits there are far too many cases coming to light which highlight future abject misery for many people.Of course some of the press will always promote anti government initiatives and we must be subjective about what we read but the plain facts do suggest that too many people will be adversely affected and this cannot be right.It appears that somebody in the government had an idea which sounded sensible on paper but have not thought though the real consequences and impact on society.There are simply not enough places for those who want to downsize to go to so it cannot be just or fair to penalise them for having "too many rooms".
So true.alot of cases will come to light.They are looking into each case now. i do think that foster carers shouldn t be taxed for an extra room, as they are providing a room for short term or long term care of kids who need that protection.Its the ones who are ripping the system that should be taxed or move to provide a family home that is most needed.whats the point of having a spare room when its not being used???? not unless the dog or cat sleep in it haha.

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I admire foster parents...but must say they get paid a decent wage and allowances so should be able to easily afford the shortfall of the housing benefit.


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off topic but interesting reading
Court of Appeal Rules that the Government’s “Back to Work” Regulations are Unlawful and Must Be Quashed


http://www.publicinterestlawyers.co.uk/news_details.php?id=298

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Originally Posted by poodlepup
I admire foster parents...but must say they get paid a decent wage and allowances so should be able to easily afford the shortfall of the housing benefit.
Agency does pay well but council dont.so they shouldn t tax the spareroom for fostering.they will loose alot of carers if they do.

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some people are completely missing the point here.....
A.SOME people DONT have a spare room but are being made to pay for a spare room because someone else decides it is, example a couple through illness sleep in separate beds in separate room because they have to.
B.they may not sleep in it but some disabled people also need room to store equipment to make life easier for them


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Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
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I admire foster parents...but must say they get paid a decent wage and allowances so should be able to easily afford the shortfall of the housing benefit.
Agency does pay well but council dont.so they shouldn t tax the spareroom for fostering.they will loose alot of carers if they do.


Sorry I know this is off topic but 'pay well'??? My sister is a respite foster carer for the council and is out of pocket every time she does it. Fortunately her house is mortgaged, if it wasn't and she was affected by the bedroom tax she'd definitely have to stop fostering.

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Originally Posted by rocks
i live in a house that was built over 100yrs ago and it wasnt designed to house all the things that we have/need in the modern world so my spare room has my big old pc and printer in it as well as my drier. bedding and some kitchen equipment etc as the downstairs rooms are tiny!


yes some are missing the point!! Lol

Disabled people get extra benefits...more wonga which should pay for the bedroom tax

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off topic but interesting reading
Court of Appeal Rules that the Government’s “Back to Work” Regulations are Unlawful and Must Be Quashed


http://www.publicinterestlawyers.co.uk/news_details.php?id=298

iv just seen that on the news


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IDS won't be happy. lOl

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This Bedroom Tax is really beginning to annoy now.

Why isn't it an option to increase rents, right across the board, irrespective of property size? Those who find it difficult can downsize, the same as happens in the private sector rentals. Of course private rentals are much more expensive, aren't they? yes
Then, at least some could have a cheaper option for larger families, instead of them having to pay the high price of private rentals. That would be a fair plan and should please all those who are fighting the cause of the families in this Bedroom Tax Campaign. Instead of the 'me me me' brigade.

In addition, the property rented in the private sector should be longer term contracts and if they don't like it, then don't rent it.
That might even help to reduce the property prices in the long term, if they can't rent as a quick fixing money spinner.

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