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Originally Posted by Madge_the_Queen
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The only issues I'd have with the vouchers are:

1 How do I pay my gas/electric/water rates/tax underpayment from when my employer did the tax calculations/my rent & council tax excess etc?

2 How do I pay for the bus to get to the shops to buy food & pay for the taxi to get back (hard to carry shopping bags when you need your arms to use crutches/stick/wheelchair) or buy online so you don't have to (in my case) take 10mgs of morphine to go shopping & another 10mgs when I get home (then not be able to walk the next day).

3 How do I pay for the bus to get to hospital appointments/physio etc?

4 How much abuse will I get from the members of the public that will see me as a scrounger & second class citizen? It will be like school dinner tokens in the 80's.

5 Will ALL food shops have to accept them? What if your bill comes to less/more than your vouchers?

6 Will they only be for food? If so, what will ladies have to do about buying tampons/towels etc? Will there be a separate voucher for nappies? How am I meant to pay for toilet rolls, cleaning products, a whole other host of necessities such as clothes?

I'm sure there would be a fair few more questions about them if I really sat & thought about it.

I agree that they shouldn't be used for nights out, alcohol, drugs etc but I can't see vouchers being the way to stop that.


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It has been revealed that Birmingham Council have entered into an agreement with Asda to provide 'Welfare cards' in the form of gift vouchers to struggling families and individuals as a replacement for crisis loans, which are being scrapped as part of the government axing of the Social Fund.

The Welfare News Service is disgusted that a supermarket would seek to benefit financially from the suffering of people going through severe financial hardship by adopting a scheme designed to force people in to shopping as a predefined location.

We believe that no individual or family should be told where to purchase goods, including food, but should instead retain the power of their free will when deciding where to shop.

The Welfare News Service believe that such a draconian policy is an infringement upon a persons civil liberties and urge Asda to rethink their participation as a matter of up-most urgency, if like us they support an individuals right to choose for themselves where they shop.

Until Asda rethink their participation and involvement in such a scheme the Welfare News Service will be asking its readers and supporters to both boycott and lobby Asda, with the objective of encouraging the supermarket chain to pull back from this scheme.

Should any further businesses also be considering such a scheme we urge them to think again and show their customers that they, unlike Asda, are not seeking to benefit financially from the hardship and suffering of families across the country.

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Katryn..
This scheme I believe is wrong. Asda is a megga American company and if they got a foothold on our welfare system, guaranteed it would go to higher places. Already we have American companies overseeing certain important area of administration in this country. In my opinion it is a dangerous place to go, there is nothing to say, Globalization is restricted only to productive companies.
We are in a world of immense change in many ways and, of things beyond our control. The list should be halted instead of encouraged, if it's possible.

Someone explain that I'm wrong...please.


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Originally Posted by granny
Katryn..
This scheme I believe is wrong. Asda is a megga American company and if they got a foothold on our welfare system, guaranteed it would go to higher places. Already we have American companies overseeing certain important area of administration in this country. In my opinion it is a dangerous place to go, there is nothing to say, Globalization is restricted only to productive companies.
We are in a world of immense change in many ways and, of things beyond our control. The list should be halted instead of encouraged, if it's possible.

Someone explain that I'm wrong...please.


see here>

http://welfarenewsservice.com/welfa...boycott-asda-welfare-cards/#.UVbtR03yDcs

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/mar/29/asda-welfare-scheme-birmingham

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This is totally wrong.We are truly being taken over by Big business .But do we want to Americanise everything. Walmart own Asda.I was worried this week when it was reported that we were running out of Gas .Hastily denied by the powers that be.Centrica own British gas Centrica are an American business.Our Britain is slowly being bought up and controlled by American business who when they have had enough pull the plug and run back home leaving chaos behind.

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Just seen this, makes me sick, dirty scumbag.

[youtube]IxYd-fK4mLs[/youtube]

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Terrible,thanks for sharing george.

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That... thing... serves no purpose to this planet and should be dead.

They should line the bottom with explosives and drop her block of flats with them all inside it.

THAT is how we combat the problem we are faced with. Kill the useless, pathetic, sniveling leeches. As painfully as possible.

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Originally Posted by MadonnaFan
That... thing... serves no purpose to this planet and should be dead.

They should line the bottom with explosives and drop her block of flats with them all inside it.

THAT is how we combat the problem we are faced with. Kill the useless, pathetic, sniveling leeches. As painfully as possible.
A BIT EXTREME ........

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That's why the government spends ALL the tax revenue it makes on benefits with NO money left for anything else (NHS, Defence, Capital schemes, etc) The figures are eye watering.

The comments are a bit extreme but when you see loathsome cretins like that who aren't going to work and think they have a right to live that way, maybe we should bring back the work house.


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A BIT EXTREME ........


No, it's spot on.

"It's the way I've been brought up" - and now she's bringing up a daughter.

Both should be injected.

Problem is that its these types who have the most kids. Spreading like a fatal disease.


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One thing that comes across, is the fact that the likes of the person in the Video clip, seems to think that the money is hers. When in fact, it isn't. It's been taken off others.
When people buy a house or get a loan from the bank, they have to pay it back. What if the benefits were classed as a loan, with a repayment scheme put in place once they were working again?
Does that sound an impossible idea?


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Hmmm. The woman in this clip cannot be held as being representative of all people on benefits. The unemployed are not just a lump of lazy people prone to benefit fraud, petty theft, or class B drug use. Many of them are people who have been made redundant and just need help to get back to work. *They're* just getting money which they've already put into the system.

It's a difficult issue. Personally I was unemployed for most of the 1980s and a lot of the 1990s too. Things were far worse in the 1980s than they are now. Throughout all of our lives, there have always been people in the UK who have been struggling to make ends meet. There has never been any golden age of plenty.

We're lucky over here imo. 780 million people in developing countries don't have access to fresh water. Meanwhile, we complain about the cost of luxuries such as alcohol and petrol.

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Madonnafan, I still think 'killing' them IS extreme thinking , i agree with 'the way i been brought up ' because i have never been out of work ,since leaving school, and three of my daugthers are the same.The woman in the clip is WRONG in her believe about the way to spend benefits ,she's obviously not all there!!I do have thoughts about people on benefits but would not write about it on a public forum.

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