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#757399 - 14th Jan 2013 2:08pm Bidston Maps
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Hi Guys, im looking for maps of the Bidston area from as far back as possible that may show natural caves or the cave in "cave plantation"

Any help would be amazing.

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#757417 - 14th Jan 2013 3:12pm Re: Bidston Maps [Re: pickle1984]
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Could be the cave in Lennox Lane
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#757418 - 14th Jan 2013 3:20pm Re: Bidston Maps [Re: pickle1984]
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yep thats the one, just trying to find out how far back it goes on maps to see if its natural or man made

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#758351 - 16th Jan 2013 9:31pm Re: Bidston Maps [Re: pickle1984]
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The oldest I can find is Thomas Taylor's map of Bidston in 1665, part of which you can see below. The map is oriented with west at the top. Bidston Hall is clearly marked, as is the Church. To the right (ie north) of the Hall you can see a large field named as Hall Paddock, in the centre of which is a rocky outcrop with a clear depiction of the cave drawn on it. The artist has even thoughtfully labelled it as "A cave" (written with a 'u' in place of the letter 'v', as was normal in the 17th century) to eliminate any doubt. This doesn't prove whether the cave is natural or man-made, but it at least shows it's of some age.


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#758803 - 18th Jan 2013 11:34am Re: Bidston Maps [Re: pickle1984]
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marty99fred
What area does that map cover and where is it to view please?
Internet, the Archives or Library?

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#760072 - 22nd Jan 2013 12:27pm Re: Bidston Maps [Re: pickle1984]
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It's not really a map, but a set of survey plans covering the Wirral estates that ultimately belonged to the Vyner Family. The main areas covered are Bidston, Wallasey Village, Poulton-cum-Seacombe, Moreton and Saughall Massie, with a few odd fields elsewhere. The originals are (or were) at Cheshire Record Office, but they're not keen on producing them, preferring you to use a set of colour photocopies instead. Wirral Archives also have a set of the copies, but they're a bit hard to read in places as whoever did the copying hasn't been able to get the original pages completely flat.

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