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Lacylee #754197 2nd Jan 2013 2:27pm
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lol Bandy I adore being in the country - the kids do better for it and despite the lack of transport and shops, it is wonderfully peaceful and the air is amazing hehe

I worked before I had my children, worked alongside my husband after having my children and my husband has worked a minimum of 1 job since thhe day he left school - sometimes 2 or 3 jobs at a time!

We manage on what we receive being honest - okay, we will never have theluxuries that some people afford on benefits but we have each other and our children s can't ask for more really. the only difficult thing right now is the heating - we use heating oil which is a pain in the bum but there is no gas until you get about 8 or 9 miles outside the village haha xxx

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If moving away did anything good it was that my kids weren't part of the scally thing round here but I am a Birkenhead born and bred bloke and I'm loving it. Buses, trains, shops, places of entertainment.......luvverly! We still work now under the maxim that if we haven't got the brass we do without it. We aint got much but we don't owe owt either so we're relatively better off than those with fur coats and no knickers.


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Best way to be IMO laugh I enjoy the kids being relaxed here, no gangs to speak of, well no real kids of any type lol

I d occasionally miss some stuff but I have a couple of good friends here who are couples so occasionally have a girly night at the bingo while my hubby watches films with their hubby and the kids laugh

Am happy with my lot right now - still have debt from when my hubby first got problems but we are paying it little by little and managing to be happy which no money could buy xxx

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Good on yer britt. We'll leave it there then and let it get back to the original topic before we get told off. Have a good 2013.


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heheh you too hun xxx

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See there is not much sympathy for this lady, Despite being disabled and having 10 serious medical conditions. People only seemed concerned with how much they are paid by the dwp. I for one hope this these people get their plight sorted and receive all the help they need and indeed as part of the COMMUNITY (anyone remember this word) are entitled to.

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Bit it isn't about sympathy Rover nor indeed the community pitying them because they only have £150 a week to live on on top of their housing and council tax benefits.

If it is an administrative error, they will receive back pay for the period of their benefits being lower than their normal rate - nothing that thousands of other people don't have to go through also but don't go to the papers about xx

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I think we all understand their plight but got slightly side tracked.

Could it be that as he has become her carer, either part or full amount of payment is deducted from her benefit and not an additional benefit ontop of what she/they already receive? I am sure that is how it works, so it may have something to do with it.


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Lacylee #754286 2nd Jan 2013 7:25pm
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So a letter got lost in the post and they got penalised, harsh but what's got to do with the government.

Everyone who's had dealings with gov agencies know that you've got to check that they're doing their job corectly but I would of thought that the CAB would be a better place to go rather than the Echo. However the Echo does have a certain political affiliation so this couple may of been encouraged to share their story after a tip-off.

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Yes, it was the blaming of the government which annoyed me. Oh and we still don't know whether the original poster has any connection with the couple in question or is simply stirring it. I suspect the latter.


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It's a government issue because it's the government who have decided that to sort out their debts they can penalise the disabled and make them pay!

Personally I think it's outrageous that families like this one are being targeted to help sort out the governments mess!

Apparently the bloke in the article had worked for more than 40 years! paying tax! His wife is obviously seriously sick and they also have a disabled Child to care for! Yet the government thought they were a good target?

(I do know of the family in question) I'm also very sick myself and have a disabled Child! I find it nauseating to see what is happening to the people of our country! Yes sure there are those who are screwing the system, there always will be! but why should the disabled be the ones to be penalised like that?

If you read the news at all you will understand what I'm talking about with the problems this gov are causing? If you don't, then I understand your naivety (no offense intended!)

Personally, I hope this family, and the thousands like them, win their cases and have their benefits re-instated (I don't feel the 'amounts' they are paid are relevant?) but if they've 'lost' money unnecessarily? then it should be repaid! imo!


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I'll enlighten you; You are working a 60hr week and getting paid a decent wage. Your wife stays home to look after your disabled Son. Your wife becomes sick and you have to give up your job! You now find yourself caring for your disabled wife and disabled Child 24/7 with no income! There are still bills to pay, food to buy and everything else one has to pay for!

Question: What do you do??

I think you would claim benefits and not care how much you get! as long as it's enough and not too little? After-all, you've worked your whole life and paid your taxes!

I'm not talking about people who 'can' work but don't! I'm talking about people who literally CANT!

I think our country should care more about these people and there are a lot of them! It's so sad!

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Don't you think you who are on the dole get enough help as it is, but then again when you think the world owes you somthink you except more, I mean come on you get everythink payed for and your still moning. them that's working get fook all' you should thank your self that you have a government like we have and not like some parts of the world. No wonder kids of today want get of there arse if the ones they look up to think there owed the world how about giving somethink back. mad

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Finally we have a government which is attempting to stop abuse of the welfare system. The system will get it wrong from time to time, what's important is that mistakes should be rectified. One thing which annoys me is when I see so many benefit claimants smoking; aren't fags about £6 a pack nowadays? I don't see why taxpayers should fund that.
Quote Lacylee "then I understand your naivety (no offense intended!)". Adding the rider "no offence intended" does nothing to remove the offence.


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Lacylee, you have come on here as a 'new member' (???) with both barrels loaded. You have posted articles which are attempting to get the attention of people. Unfortunately you have pressed the wrong buttons this time and managed to bring in bad feeling . Had you wanted to help your so called friends (who are probably already Wiki members) you should have shut up!

I've never heard such rubbish on your post of DIY, https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/754116/DIY.html#Post754116
why bring that to the forum. Go to the official registered 'help websites.'
How is it that so many individuals/families nationwide,are happy with their disability benefits. There aren't so many who jump up and down waving their own little flag overall. More, generally speaking from the North West.

"quote I find it nauseating to see what is happening to the people of our country! unquote"

Do you now?
Go try living in India, Pakistan, Greece, Italy, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Turkey, Lebanon, etc .etc. etc. many a disabled person in those countries, it could be a lot worse.

Your posts just do not have any genuine feel about them, even down to the way in which you compose them.Sorry!! I don't even think you are a woman, although you have rried to make us think you are.

One more thing, if so much is truly so bad for you, you are obviously very good with computer skills, spelling, you could probably answer a phone and are equipped with other admin skills. Get a job working from home....that might help and take your mind else where!

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