WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Stats
12247 Members
65 Forums
72881 Topics
982378 Posts
77 posts in the last 24hrs
Max Online: 7831 @ 8th Apr 2013 4:18pm
Who's Online - Click Me
65 registered (11kendo, 11 invisible), 1342 Guests and 271 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


(Views 7days)This Weeks Most Read
What happened to Tranmere car bootie? 592
Martin Mcguinness dies 527
Alloys refurb and colour change. The Wheel Deal. 467
File too large 395
Council tax bill for this year 2017 389
British troops to Estonia 343
Incident at Westminster 339
Has anyone fished 309
1882 Plan of the borough of Birkenhead and Wards 292
Petrol Lawnmower to purchase 239
New General Forums
Surely the most honest add.....
by buddy
20th Mar 2017 5:43pm
Happy Birthday DIZDAZDOZ
by snowhite
19th Mar 2017 4:24pm
My old friend the fox
by Dilly
18th Mar 2017 11:15am
charity shop bungle..true story
by fish5133
18th Mar 2017 9:11am
New Wirral History
William Bernard's building, Birkenhead
by yoller
20th Mar 2017 4:27pm
1882 Plan of the borough of Birkenhead and Wards
by Dave_Wood
19th Mar 2017 11:57am
New Brighton Coop
by Mike_White
9th Mar 2017 12:48pm
Tranmere High School for Girls 1882 Chesnut Grove
by sarah708
6th Mar 2017 8:23pm
Whetstone Lane, Birkenhead
by MoretonExpat
6th Mar 2017 8:04am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Birkenhead Transport Museum 24th Feb 2017
fireworks on the Mersey last night
Topic Replies
Incident at Westminster
by Vanmanone
2 minutes 58 seconds ago
706 Plough Inn 25and 27 Breck Road Wallasey
by tigertiger1953
6 minutes 14 seconds ago
What are you eating today?
by Dilly
Today at 01:44 PM
Offset number plates
by venice
Today at 01:38 PM
Genuine Canada Goose Men's Chilliwack Jacket - L
by Liverpooltiger
Today at 01:14 PM
It's Broken : Forum Update
by lollipop
Today at 08:53 AM
Lee and Cragg Quarries - Bacup
by Mark
Today at 07:43 AM
What does this all mean?
by venice
Today at 01:03 AM
Martin Mcguinness dies
by lollipop
Yesterday at 07:20 PM
March
M Tu W Th F Sa Su
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Lee and Cragg Quarries - Bacup
by Mark
Today at 07:43 AM
Rufford Old Hall
by diggingdeeper
13th Mar 2017 9:58am
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#728745 - 28th Sep 2012 12:59pm 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street
Hedgehog Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 8th Dec 2007
Posts: 179
Loc: Hoylake
368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street - 167/9 Price Street

On doing my family tree I've discovered that my grandmother was a servant at the above address.
The head of house was an Isabella Foulkes described as a licenced victualler.
Was this a Pub??


Edited by Mark (27th Nov 2012 8:10am)
Edit Reason: Title Re-named

Top
Wirral Pubs : Advertising
Click me for more Information......

* * * vipstudios.co.uk - Photographic Studios * * *
Now Advertise with WikiWirral.
WikiWirral stats 35,000 Page Views a Day +500 Search Engines.. Click Me
#728746 - 28th Sep 2012 1:09pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
Westminster Hotel,

1916 directory,
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#728765 - 28th Sep 2012 2:27pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
MrsBaker
Unregistered


no this was a butchers shop...

Top
#728798 - 28th Sep 2012 5:07pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: ]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
.


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
wh.jpg


_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#728850 - 28th Sep 2012 8:37pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
MrsBaker
Unregistered


well done bert good research... victualler is a butcher so perhaps thats what she was

Top
#728881 - 28th Sep 2012 10:14pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: bert1]
Bennie Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 26th Jun 2012
Posts: 103
Loc: Wirral
The Westminster Pub was on the corner of Price st and Watson St until the mid sixties,

Bennie

Top
#728886 - 28th Sep 2012 10:28pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Bennie]
Helles Offline
Wise One

Registered: 28th May 2010
Posts: 887
Loc: Wirral
Not sure when victualler became a butcher but never mind. Think that was just a catch all name for food supplier. i.e. Licensed victualler was a booze seller.
I can't see 167/9 on Berts directory or am I missing something?

Top
#728941 - 29th Sep 2012 4:57am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Helles]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
Helles,
The Westminster Hotel was listed as 165, I assume it was big enough to take up plots 167 and 169.
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#728965 - 29th Sep 2012 9:04am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Helles]
MrsBaker
Unregistered


well helles, you have enlightend me that makes sense then a licensed victualler sells booze in the hotel. always learning...

Top
#728969 - 29th Sep 2012 9:07am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: bert1]
nightwalker Offline

Old Hand

Registered: 17th May 2010
Posts: 374
Loc: new brighton
1911 directory..


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
Price Street 1911.jpg



Top
#728988 - 29th Sep 2012 10:10am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: nightwalker]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
Well done NW,

Its not the first mistake made in the 1916 directory I've come across, on saying that I wonder if by 1916 the hotel had acquired part of the drapers?
_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#729496 - 1st Oct 2012 10:34am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4982
Loc: Birkenhead
Both the street directories appear to be wrog.
I've also cocked up by calling it the Prince AlBERT which would have been at number 157 on this 1950's map.
I,ve got the Westminster down as Duke of Westminster from 1881 licence register

Anyone know what the club was just by it number 161?


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
Duke of Westminster.jpg

m100095_331818_389261 British Queen Westminster.png

Description: 1876 town map




Edited by derekdwc (1st Oct 2012 11:58am)

Top
#729516 - 1st Oct 2012 12:30pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: derekdwc]
bert1 Offline

Wiki Veteran

Registered: 27th Nov 2008
Posts: 7864
Loc: tranmere
I'm not sure the 1911 directory is wrong, below, the 1911 census and 1921 phone book.


Attachments: Viewing Permissions May Apply. Click Me
if 1911.jpg

1921 tele book.jpg


_________________________
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.


Bertieone.

Top
#729518 - 1st Oct 2012 12:44pm Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
derekdwc Online   content


Forum Veteran

Registered: 13th Oct 2008
Posts: 4982
Loc: Birkenhead
On the 1950s map Watson Street is between numbers 167 and 169
Possibly building numbers may have been re-numbered as some were demolished and others built between your dates and the 1950s


Edited by derekdwc (1st Oct 2012 12:47pm)

Top
#731451 - 8th Oct 2012 3:44am Re: 368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street [Re: Hedgehog]
willoughby Offline
Newbeee

Registered: 7th Oct 2012
Posts: 17
Loc: auckland new zealand
I worked at the Westmister Hotel when my uncle Joseph Patrick Lynch was the landlord in the late 1950s. It was definitely # 167-169 with a wider frontage on Price Street compared with Watson Street, although the private entrance for the accommodation upstairs was in Watson Street. It was a three storey building with the top floor given over to a number of small rooms all interconnecting without a corridor. rather odd. I was told by old timers that some locals refused to drink in the Westminster as it had accommodated the Birmingham Police during the national police strike years ago.

Does anyone have a photograph? Wirral Archives in Canning Street doesn't. I've been there, done that. DerekDWC's map of c1950s looks right as there was a back room leading from the bar and on a higher level if my memory is correct. Perhaps this area had been added on at some time as it doesn't appear on earlier maps.

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  derekdwc, kimpri 
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Offset number plates
by venice
Today at 01:24 AM
What does this all mean?
by venice
Yesterday at 12:20 PM
black contiboard locally?
by fish5133
21st Mar 2017 9:30pm
Port Sunlight
by alan128
21st Mar 2017 10:09am
Council tax bill for this year 2017
by keef666
20th Mar 2017 10:25pm
For Sale & Free
Genuine Canada Goose Men's Chilliwack Jacket - L
by Liverpooltiger
Today at 01:14 PM
Nail Varnish Stands X 2 (holds 50 in each one)
by j_demo
20th Mar 2017 5:49pm
Ipad
by madrob
19th Mar 2017 5:15pm
windows 7 64bit pc
by brady
18th Mar 2017 4:49pm
Petrol Lawnmower to purchase
by saltytom
18th Mar 2017 8:42am
Featured Member
Registered: 2nd Mar 2014
Posts: 53
Newest Members
Monkeyboyliam121, andreap, LairdLad, HollandGj, petaann
12247 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
What does this all mean?
by venice
Yesterday at 12:20 PM
black contiboard locally?
by fish5133
21st Mar 2017 9:30pm
Port Sunlight
by alan128
21st Mar 2017 10:09am
Council tax bill for this year 2017
by keef666
20th Mar 2017 10:25pm
What happened to Tranmere car bootie?
by MikeT
18th Mar 2017 6:27am
News : New Topics
Incident at Westminster
by granny
Yesterday at 03:40 PM
Martin Mcguinness dies
by Dilly
21st Mar 2017 9:29am
British troops to Estonia
by fish5133
18th Mar 2017 8:16am
Unusual Phone calls
by granny
16th Mar 2017 3:53pm
Thanks
by Christinerowland
14th Mar 2017 8:11pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Offset number plates
by venice
Today at 01:24 AM
File too large
by Dilly
20th Mar 2017 10:41am
ford focus 1.6 t reg rattling
by Little_B
19th Mar 2017 11:02pm
Alloys refurb and colour change. The Wheel Deal.
by TheComputerLab
18th Mar 2017 9:17am
Has anyone fished
by Habdab
17th Mar 2017 8:43pm
(Views 24hrs)Trending Newest Topics
Offset number plates 161
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Thu 6:05am
Sunset Thu 6:31pm
Local Time Thu 4:32pm
WikiWirral Can . . . .
Advertising Click me
To Advertise with
Wikiwirral Click Me