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#719688 - 25th Aug 2012 7:00pm Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal
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Article by Lorna Hughes Liverpool Echo 22 August 2012:

Thousands of Merseyside householders could be charged for having their garden waste collected.

Opponents today described the controversial move as a “garden tax” on Wirral residents.

In the autumn councillors are due to debate the introduction of a subscription service for garden waste collections.

Under the current system, 112,000 homes in Wirral – around 77% – have a brown bin for garden waste but the cost is met by all taxpayers.

The council said the issue was just one of a range of proposals Wirral residents will be asked for their views on in a “comprehensive consultation” over the next few months.

It will be the third such survey in the past three years as the council tries to find £100m in savings over the next three years.


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#719737 - 25th Aug 2012 9:33pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: paxvobiscum]
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Should that case arise it will either go in to green bin, cause massive queues at the tip, or get dumped. Don't they ever learn?

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#719756 - 26th Aug 2012 1:07am Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: Moonstar]
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Originally Posted By: Moonstar
Should that case arise it will either go in to green bin, cause massive queues at the tip, or get dumped. Don't they ever learn?


No, they don't. Might just as well get rid of the brown bins,which they said we all had to have. What about the services many don't use but still pay for. Rediculous idea, could be the tip of an iceberg, Will those on benefits get free collections and those who aren't have to pay for them?


Edited by granny (26th Aug 2012 1:17am)
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#719757 - 26th Aug 2012 1:42am Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: paxvobiscum]
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If they go through with it surely we would then ALL be able to refuse to pay for services we don't use.

I don't have a brown bin, or a green one, never have, asked for one when I got the place, didn't get one so EVERYTHING I throw away goes into a business bin which I pay for, so would I be due twenty odd years of refuse collection refund ?

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#719825 - 26th Aug 2012 11:01am Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: TheDr]
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Originally Posted By: TheDr
If they go through with it surely we would then ALL be able to refuse to pay for services we don't use.

I don't have a brown bin, or a green one, never have, asked for one when I got the place, didn't get one so EVERYTHING I throw away goes into a business bin which I pay for, so would I be due twenty odd years of refuse collection refund ?


If all is fair, then why not, Dr.?

Can anyone say what happens to our garden waste on Wirral? Other councils do actually inform what the process involves for the environmetal protection and this payment,is obviously an idea which other councils have brought into play.
Well I think we might have to demand the weekly collection back, of the green bins, if this goes ahead. Presumably the Wirral Council will be putting their two fingers up at the environmetal protection idea because I think the end product is that we can't afford to be paying additional amounts any longer. Little bits here and little bits there all add up and if the council have bad management skills, then it's a bit like me going out and spending too much and expecting 'me mates' to pay it back for me.
This should be in the rant section!
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#719829 - 26th Aug 2012 11:19am Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: granny]
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It's now an overall controlled Labour council. They will bash the toffs...you can put money on it.

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#719854 - 26th Aug 2012 12:04pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: Alonso]
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Agreed Alan, although we don't have to be 'toffs' in Wirral to have a garden.
The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'. Thoroughly sickening and I think it's about time these so called 'toffs' should rise up and stop being rediculed by the degenerates who think the 'toffs' owe them too much.
Quite often a clear example of 'inverted snobbery' in many who just can't get to grips with fact that Mary could possibly have more than Mandy!

If you live in Heswall,Neston, Parkgate, Irby, Frankby,Port Sunlight, West Kirby,Hoylake, Greasby,and surrounding areas you will be classed as a 'toff' by many from Wallasey, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Rock Ferry,etc and they need to say why because at the end of the day they rely upon those people for so many different reasons, it's impossible to list them all..


Edited by granny (26th Aug 2012 12:11pm)
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#719863 - 26th Aug 2012 12:23pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
Agreed Alan, although we don't have to be 'toffs' in Wirral to have a garden.
The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'. Thoroughly sickening and I think it's about time these so called 'toffs' should rise up and stop being rediculed by the degenerates who think the 'toffs' owe them too much.
Quite often a clear example of 'inverted snobbery' in many who just can't get to grips with fact that Mary could possibly have more than Mandy!

If you live in Heswall,Neston, Parkgate, Irby, Frankby,Port Sunlight, West Kirby,Hoylake, Greasby,and surrounding areas you will be classed as a 'toff' by many from Wallasey, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Rock Ferry,etc and they need to say why because at the end of the day they rely upon those people for so many different reasons, it's impossible to list them all..

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#719889 - 26th Aug 2012 1:14pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
Agreed Alan, although we don't have to be 'toffs' in Wirral to have a garden.
The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'. Thoroughly sickening and I think it's about time these so called 'toffs' should rise up and stop being rediculed by the degenerates who think the 'toffs' owe them too much.
Quite often a clear example of 'inverted snobbery' in many who just can't get to grips with fact that Mary could possibly have more than Mandy!

If you live in Heswall,Neston, Parkgate, Irby, Frankby,Port Sunlight, West Kirby,Hoylake, Greasby,and surrounding areas you will be classed as a 'toff' by many from Wallasey, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Rock Ferry,etc and they need to say why because at the end of the day they rely upon those people for so many different reasons, it's impossible to list them all..


thats a rather sweeping statement to make
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#719997 - 26th Aug 2012 6:52pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: dave_h]
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Originally Posted By: dave_h
Originally Posted By: granny
Agreed Alan, although we don't have to be 'toffs' in Wirral to have a garden.
The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'. Thoroughly sickening and I think it's about time these so called 'toffs' should rise up and stop being rediculed by the degenerates who think the 'toffs' owe them too much.
Quite often a clear example of 'inverted snobbery' in many who just can't get to grips with fact that Mary could possibly have more than Mandy!

If you live in Heswall,Neston, Parkgate, Irby, Frankby,Port Sunlight, West Kirby,Hoylake, Greasby,and surrounding areas you will be classed as a 'toff' by many from Wallasey, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Rock Ferry,etc and they need to say why because at the end of the day they rely upon those people for so many different reasons, it's impossible to list them all..


thats a rather sweeping statement to make


Too right Dave, that's a massive generalisation.

"The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'",

I do all of the above yet only live in lowly Seacombe (with no brown bin!) Now does that make me a toff or not? Should I be rising up against being ridiculed in spite of where I live? I'm not sure what I'm relying on people from the 'posher' areas for. Please advise smile

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#720014 - 26th Aug 2012 7:24pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: Zubee]
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Generally generalisations,like statistics and verbal promises are not worth the paper they are written on!
I am a toff(eeman) and to be frank every area on(in)Wirral and everywhere else in the country has pockets of reasonably well off and not so well off. The list that Granny posted for example listed e.g. Hoylake, Port Sunlight,Neston et al; all the listed places have areas of deprivation just as much as "lowly Seacombe with no brown bin". Areas are made by communities not the physical area.
BTW if they do bring in the "brown bin tax" I will do what I ought to do now which is make my own compost.

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#720059 - 26th Aug 2012 8:34pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: Salmon]
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Neston comes under Cheshire West & Ellesmere Port.my daughter is in the Port & she has got a garden waste bin,she hasn't got a garden where's the logic in that.
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#720192 - 27th Aug 2012 11:16am Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: Alonso]
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It's now an overall controlled Labour council. They will bash the toffs...you can put money on it.


Thats the best joke I have heard on here for ages!

Have you seen how fat and rich your "local" Labour councillor is? And where they live?
They are only wanna be tories who just couldnt get in!


Edited by insanekitty (27th Aug 2012 11:16am)

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#720442 - 27th Aug 2012 8:37pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: granny
Agreed Alan, although we don't have to be 'toffs' in Wirral to have a garden.
The annoying thing is, that if anyone can speak properly, write correctly, look after themselves without benefits,keep a standard of living, which once was considered normal at all levels, they are now referred to as 'toffs'. Thoroughly sickening and I think it's about time these so called 'toffs' should rise up and stop being rediculed by the degenerates who think the 'toffs' owe them too much.
Quite often a clear example of 'inverted snobbery' in many who just can't get to grips with fact that Mary could possibly have more than Mandy!

If you live in Heswall,Neston, Parkgate, Irby, Frankby,Port Sunlight, West Kirby,Hoylake, Greasby,and surrounding areas you will be classed as a 'toff' by many from Wallasey, Birkenhead, Tranmere, Rock Ferry,etc and they need to say why because at the end of the day they rely upon those people for so many different reasons, it's impossible to list them all..

withthat
I often think, when I drive along Vyner Road South, that these people must all be paying the top band of council tax, and yet the road surface along there left a lot to be desired the last time I drove along it.

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#720443 - 27th Aug 2012 8:40pm Re: Garden Waste Collection Charges Proposal [Re: insanekitty]
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Originally Posted By: insanekitty
Originally Posted By: Alonso
It's now an overall controlled Labour council. They will bash the toffs...you can put money on it.


Thats the best joke I have heard on here for ages!

Have you seen how fat and rich your "local" Labour councillor is? And where they live?
They are only wanna be tories who just couldnt get in!


It wasn't meant to be a joke, and I fully agree with you.

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