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Not taking it personally, Granny. Yes, I am angry, yes- I am passionate (maybe thats what you sense from my posts) but honestly You may note thaty I have never discussed or disclosed my personal/ financial circumstance.

Do any of you know for definite what my circumstances are? fooking no!

One thing that sticks in my head is that you have to be apart of a 'disadvantaged group' to give a shit.

Well, no- not in this house.No 'disadvanagd'needs here so does that mean that Ishould not give a shit about other groups.

"DSS are accepted in many properties because the landlords know they will get their rent"
Granny, More than half of private landlords are refusing to accept tenants on benefits with many claiming people not receiving welfare support were more reliable.
Flat and house share website SpareRoom.co.uk said that a survey of more than 1,000 UK landlords showed that 59 per cent were stating ‘no housing benefit tenants’ on their adverts.
this survey was done 16/01/12,Granny, dont forget the overall benefit caps starts in April, then Universal credit in October,

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/tena...bing-tenants-on-benefits/6519958.article

Rude, ""Rotty, I would like to know just who determines that people are 'severley disabled""
rude it certainly is not ATOS, they cure the disabled within 10 mins off an assessment
combat the bedrrom tax made a good point on their blog """to weaken working class unity closer towards the tax’s inception. And then once the public outrage over vulnerable people is out the way, they can ramp up the scrounger rhetoric again to settle the public’s remaining concerns on the bedroom tax"""


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I can see this being like the poll tax as In no-one give a dam until it came in, wait till it comes into affect and people see it does affect them, we could see a return to the poll tax riots.

I seen on the news that arm forces won't have to pay bed room tax why not? so if I have to pay BRT and have a kid at the age he/she can go to war if I send him/her I now have a room free and don't have to pay for it

Rudebox, I think you will like this poem,
Don’t know about it describing life in the 18th century, my god it is happening now.

From the workhouse and the prison
Where pale as corpses newly risen,
Women, children, young and old
Groan for pain, and weep for cold -
From the haunts of daily life
Where is waged the daily strife
With common wants and common cares
Which sows the human heart with tares -
Lastly from the palaces
Where the murmur of distress
Echoes, like the distant sound
Of a wind alive around
Those prison halls of wealth and fashion
Where some few feel such compassion
For those who groan, and toil, and wail
As must make their brethren pale -
Ye who suffer woes untold,
Or to feel, or to be behold
Your lost country bought and sold
With a price of blood and gold -
Let a vast assembly be,
And with great solemnity
Declare with measured words that ye
Are, as God has made ye, free -
And these words shall then become
Like Oppression's thunder doom
Ringing through each heart and brain,
Heard again - again - again
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number -
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many - they are few.

Percy Bysshe Shelley, The Call to Freedom (1819)

Thank God we live in a world so far removed from that which led to the Peterloo massacre which prompted Shelley to write this poem.Those days almost nobody was enfranchised, most poor people were starving and sentences for stealing a bit of bread was probably hanging.To draw a parallel between then and now is, to put it mildly, nonsensical.The early 20th century which saw the inevitable and very welcome but long overdue rise of the unions and the Labour Party has ensured such conditions will never be allowed or tolerated.

Had the local authority not put a ceiling on the amount of benefits people may claim for housing benefit a few years ago? They had a ceiling of nearly £100pw they gave benefits for if you were single, if you went and rented over this amount, you paid the difference out of your own money. Maybe this may be a fair way to give housing benefit. They also gave some incentives if you wanted to leave your accommodation and buy a house.

This latest attack will only be defeated if people band together like they did over the poll tax, it doesn't matter if you are individually affected by the bedroom tax, it's just plain wrong.

Bennie.

“”most poor people were starving””
Salmon, foodbanks are set up all over the place because everyone knows the reality is that soup kitchens and the like are going to be all that there is in the future.

""the unions and the Labour Party has ensured such conditions will never be allowed or tolerated""
Salmon, i just split my sides laughing, the labour party are rubbing their hands in glee that the coalition has done all the dirty work for them, reforming the welfare system, saves them having to do it, if they get in 2015

Thanks for the poem, Rotty.

Some will know that Saturday is a Day of Protest (our nearest is Crown Court, Liverpool at 1pm).

The Bootle Demo recieved no media-before or after- yet 1200 attended. (mainly through facebook) Saturdays' demo has been advertised in the Echo and the Daily Mirror....

This 'thing' is getting bigger and bigger and bigger

Meeting at Leasowe Community Centre 7pm tomorrow.

Freddies Club, Woodward Estate. Rock Ferry. 25 March at 5.30pm

Wallasey Peaceful Protest. 28th March at noon outside the Town Hall.

Woodchurch and Beechcroft meetings coming soon.

IDS has done nothing other than manipulate the DHP distribution. Thinks he is appeasing the masses.
Nah. Just another 'divide n conquer' tactic and peeps aint buying it (apart from ... and Mail sheeples).

""To draw a parallel between then and now is, to put it mildly, nonsensical""

Salmon, A Parliamentary debate last January revealed govt figures of over 10,000 unnecessary deaths, and with 73 more dying every week, from causes which include starvation and suicide. Yet outside the alternative media, these deaths remain unreported.
http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/20...ech-on-atos-work-capability-assessments/

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.":
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

8000 expected to die in the next financial year, I believe.....

Looks like the poor MP's are getting an extra £100 to help with the costs of running their second homes - that makes it £20,100 a year!! How many "tax payers" will be up in arms & calling them scroungers then?

Source.